Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Jeeves
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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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admin wrote: ↑21 Aug 2026 09:33 I'm curious to see what comes out. 50 seconds is a long time. It will probably be some heavy columns or a script triggered by custom event actions.
I don't do any of that, which is also part of the curiousity. All thumbnail generation is off, I don't run any non-Explorer columns, and the only scripts in my system ar run manuall from the User Menu or opening a scripting file from Scripting -> Run Script. I don't use the tagging, favorites or most the mini features.

And yes, the systems are vey different and frequently used for different tasks so just using the other ini is unlikely.

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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This line seems to be the fault for the setting 'InfoTipVisList' :
InfoTipVisList=11111111111110000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
If I comment it out, it's instant.
If I leave it enabled, I get long, long delays.

I have no idea what it is, and I didn't create it by hand, so I still believe this is a bug.
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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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The InfoTipVisList key corresponds to this setting:
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show file info tips | Select Standard Fields...

At first glance, it's unclear how this could be responsible for the delay. :eh: Anyway, try if unchecking Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show file info tips | Use standard shell file info tips makes a difference.

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Apologies on the delay, I was hoping to have more useful information. However; it appears my testing was flawed. If I close and re-open XY, even with my original ini. It's fast to perform the operation. I don't know when or how long I have to wait, but at some point it becomes slow.

So, that throws a whole other wrench into things and wasn't something I'd tested before.

I'm not sure how to go about testing it now. I thought I had it with that line, but 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Alright, I caught this on video.

I tend to leave XY running at all times, which may have been why I didn't notice immediately after a restart it worked.

Attached is a ZIP (since the forum won't let me attach MP4's directly).
In the zip are two videos; I show the XY "Various Information" dialog before both.

First Video: I've had it running ~2.5 hours. I rename both an empty directory and one with a single 400mb file in it. Both take ~35 seconds to unlock.

Second Video: I close and reopen XY; Show the 'Various Information' box again (showing 55 seconds uptime). In the exact same path as the last video, I create a new empty folder, rename it, and it works instantly. No INI changes, nothing in between, just closed XY, Repoened XY.
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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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any ideas or ways to troubleshoot this?

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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No. If you maintain that this is caused by differences in the XY configuration, then you are the only one who can determine the cause.

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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admin wrote: ↑29 Aug 2026 09:10 No. If you maintain that this is caused by differences in the XY configuration, then you are the only one who can determine the cause.
I don't maintain that. In the last 2, 3 posts I've in fact shown otherwise and was asking for input based on that information.

I demonstrated, on Video posted above, that if it's been running for an amount of time, it's slow unlocking after the rename. If I restart it XY before performing the operation, it's instaneous. Sounds like a bug somewhere.

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Here's another video. No cuts, but I blur the background of my monitor between closing XY and relaunching it.

Video start - Show information, XY has been running almost 6 hours.
I go through the process of the renaming with a slash on two different drives. Same behavior on both. Timing is something like ~40-45 seconds apiece of hanging after the operation appears complete; Multiple times.
I close XY, and restart it.
After starting XY; I show the 'Various Information' dialog again, uptime 5 seconds.
I perform the same steps again, and there is no hang; The result is instantaneous

No INI changes; Nothing. Sure sounds like a bug now that I've nailed this process down.
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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Could you send your INI file to support?

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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admin wrote: ↑30 Aug 2026 08:33 Could you send your INI file to support?
Is that just Support@xyplorer.com?

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Yes
Ralph :)
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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Done.

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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Thanks! The next beta will add some debug code that will narrow down where the time is lost.

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Re: Creating sub-folder by rename + insert \ = XY Hangs for 50 seconds.

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admin wrote: ↑31 Aug 2026 15:44 Thanks! The next beta will add some debug code that will narrow down where the time is lost.
Appreciated. I know the capabilities of XY far exceed what I use it for, but it's a curious detail that (essentially) the longer I leave it running the longer it hangs.

Where is the debug data stored, do I need to CTRL+ on a menu item, or is there a log that'll be generated somewhere?
Thanks!

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