OT: Migrating from XP to Win7

[admin]

My plan is to add a second SATA disk and install Win7 (Prof/32bit) on it. Keep XP on the first disk. To have both system easily available but nicely separated.

Question: Can I somehow migrate/import my installed software from the XP disk to the Win7 disk?

[zer0]

Question: Can I somehow migrate/import my installed software from the XP disk to the Win7 disk?

That is not possible, as far as I know. The reason is not difficult to deduce: Win 7 is significantly different to XP. You can migrate certain content, though, by using Windows Easy Transfer. Download link is here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

[admin]

Question: Can I somehow migrate/import my installed software from the XP disk to the Win7 disk?

That is not possible, as far as I know. The reason is not difficult to deduce: Win 7 is significantly different to XP. You can migrate certain content, though, by using Windows Easy Transfer. Download link is here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

Thanks.

It says:

Windows Easy Transfer supports transfers using any of the following methods:
1) USB Easy Transfer Cable
2) Network connection
3) Removable media (such as a USB flash drive or external hard disk)

Does not mention HD to HD. So even this will not work?

[zer0]

It says:

Windows Easy Transfer supports transfers using any of the following methods:
1) USB Easy Transfer Cable
2) Network connection
3) Removable media (such as a USB flash drive or external hard disk)

Does not mention HD to HD. So even this will not work?

As long as your 2nd SATA drive is formatted, what you should be able to do is as follows:
1) Get Windows Easy Transfer (WET) to do its job and dump the resultant file onto your 2nd HDD -- you can specify its location.
2) When it's done, transfer it back to your XP drive.
3) Install Win 7 on the 2nd SATA HDD
4) Use its Easy Transfer to access the file that's on your XP drive.

I'm pretty sure that it's possible to create a WET file on another local HDD, but don't have a 2nd one to confirm that 100%.

[nas8e9]

My plan is to add a second SATA disk and install Win7 (Prof/32bit) on it.

Just curious: why 32-bit instead of 64-bit?

[admin]

My plan is to add a second SATA disk and install Win7 (Prof/32bit) on it.

Just curious: why 32-bit instead of 64-bit?

Well, my computer is 32 bit.

[nas8e9]

My plan is to add a second SATA disk and install Win7 (Prof/32bit) on it.

Just curious: why 32-bit instead of 64-bit?

Well, my computer is 32 bit.

You mean the processor?

[admin]

My plan is to add a second SATA disk and install Win7 (Prof/32bit) on it.

Just curious: why 32-bit instead of 64-bit?

Well, my computer is 32 bit.

You mean the processor?

Yep.

[zer0]

Also, it's a far more treacherous road to use WET when going from 32-bit to 64-bit. I'd always recommend a fresh start when going to 64-bit, but not sure how much of a possibility it is with Don.

[nas8e9]

Also, it's a far more treacherous road to use WET when going from 32-bit to 64-bit. I'd always recommend a fresh start when going to 64-bit, but not sure how much of a possibility it is with Don.

The nice thing about the Professional (and Ultimate/Enterprise) version of Windows 7 is that it comes with the right to use Windows XP Mode with Windows Virtual PC. That way older software (say, VB 6.0 ~ 1998 ) can be run in the Windows XP Mode VM, while modern apps profit from the additional memory and improved smoothness of x64.

[zer0]

The nice thing about the Professional (and Ultimate/Enterprise) version of Windows 7 is that it comes with the right to use Windows XP Mode with Windows Virtual PC. That way older software (say, VB 6.0 ~ 1998 ) can be run in the Windows XP Mode VM, while modern apps profit from the additional memory and improved smoothness of x64.

Whether old or modern, those apps still have to be installed Not that many, in comparison, modern apps are optimised for x64/multi-core environments. That being said, if XYplorer will make a move [sooner or later] to being multi-threaded/64-bit native then I'd suggest a move to 64-bit Win 7.

[PeterH]

My plan is to add a second SATA disk and install Win7 (Prof/32bit) on it.

Just curious: why 32-bit instead of 64-bit?

Well, my computer is 32 bit.

You mean the processor?

Yep.

You really mean that? What do you have?

I think, that more and more users will use 7/64bit - and will have special problems with it. So from my point of view it would be good, if you had both versions available. Maybe it would be ok to run one of them in a virtual machine, as VirtualBox.

[nas8e9]

The nice thing about the Professional (and Ultimate/Enterprise) version of Windows 7 is that it comes with the right to use Windows XP Mode with Windows Virtual PC. That way older software (say, VB 6.0 ~ 1998 ) can be run in the Windows XP Mode VM, while modern apps profit from the additional memory and improved smoothness of x64.

Whether old or modern, those apps still have to be installed Not that many, in comparison, modern apps are optimised for x64/multi-core environments. That being said, if XYplorer will make a move [sooner or later] to being multi-threaded/64-bit native then I'd suggest a move to 64-bit Win 7.

(Down)time rather than compatibility being the problem, you mean. Oh, and the lack of a 64-bit processor...

I don't know whether Don's move is (also) to do with testing; if so, 64-bit is frequently mentioned (rightly or wrongly) in bug reports. Also, virtualisation would allow keeping VM's around for all supported Windows versions for testing purposes (Undo/Redo development was apparently not as quick as could be partially because Don could only test on Windows XP). The great benefit of a 64-bit OS is more memory (VM's typically require at least 1 GB of additional memory) as well as the ability to virtualise 64-bit Windows (with VirtualBox or VMware), allowing all Windows versions to be tested.

As far as the advantage of 64-bit Windows with multiple cores when (mainly) running 32-bit apps, by the time Windows has started a huge chunk of 64-bit code with many processes and threads is active. Running multiple 32-bit apps on top is enough to make a case for multiple cores. By the way, XYplorer employs 4 threads on my system; that may just be overhead, but still...

[admin]

...64-bit is frequently mentioned (rightly or wrongly) in bug reports...

Wrongly: I'm not aware of a single bug that's related to 64 bit. But of course it makes sense that users mention their exact OS in bug reports.

The only thing is the 32/64 bit mutually exclusive shell extension support, which is not a XY bug but an OS feature.

[zer0]

I think this OT thread has gone even more OT

Re: 64-bit -- a lot depends on Don's hardware: if he does not have 4GB of RAM and his motherboard won't allow more than 4GB then 32-bit it is. Could also be due to to some apps that he uses not having a 64-bit version, who knows

Re: installed programs -- if they're portable, like XY, then sure, that's the nature of the beast. If they aren't portable then computer says "No"