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[admin]

I created a facebook page for XYplorer:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/XYplorer/197770266933943

Now show me what this is good for.

First of all, remove the code at the bottom of the main XYplorer page, because it is pointing at another Facebook profile.

Is it? To which?

[tux.]

The only information that is sent to Facebook, from my understanding, is a request to fetch the IFRAME with its contents. The box and its information are stored on FB's servers, so XYplorer's page wouldn't pass any info to FB, it merely retrieves it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20006532-38.html

Even if someone is not a Facebook user or is not logged in, Facebook's social plug-ins collect the address of the Web page being visited and the Internet address of the visitor as soon as the page is loaded--clicking on the Like button is not required. If enough sites participate, that permits Facebook to assemble a vast amount of data about Internet users' browsing habits.

When my browser fetches the IFRAME contents, Facebook records it. Without my consent.

[zer0]

First of all, remove the code at the bottom of the main XYplorer page, because it is pointing at another Facebook profile.

Is it? To which?[/quote]Doesn't look like it is to any in particular, at least according to source code. I would suggest replacing it with this code

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<iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?app_id=207569529283112&href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpages%2FXYplorer%2F197770266933943&send=false&layout=standard&
width=450&show_faces=false&action=like&colorscheme=light&font&height=35" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px; height:35px;" allowTransparency="true"></iframe>

as it links to the page that you created a few days ago.

The only information that is sent to Facebook, from my understanding, is a request to fetch the IFRAME with its contents. The box and its information are stored on FB's servers, so XYplorer's page wouldn't pass any info to FB, it merely retrieves it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20006532-38.html

Even if someone is not a Facebook user or is not logged in, Facebook's social plug-ins collect the address of the Web page being visited and the Internet address of the visitor as soon as the page is loaded--clicking on the Like button is not required. If enough sites participate, that permits Facebook to assemble a vast amount of data about Internet users' browsing habits.

When my browser fetches the IFRAME contents, Facebook records it. Without my consent.

Sorry, but that's FUD. If you load a page with that IFRAME, your browser will make an HTTP request to Facebook to fetch the contents of that frame. According to Facebook's privacy policy, they may record browser type, IP address and contents that you view. All of those 3 are bread and butter of the HTTP protocol: browser type is the user agent in the connection, IP address is needed for obvious reasons and contents is what you GET in response. By visiting the page that contains this social element, you agree to view content displayed on that page. There are ways to stop it from loading, but that's up to you.

[tux.]

It's not that they know that I visited a site with the Like box, it's that they profile me. Read the link again.

[admin]

Doesn't look like it is to any in particular, at least according to source code.

I think the code is ok. It's not about liking my facebook site, but about liking the XY homepage.

[zer0]

It's not that they know that I visited a site with the Like box, it's that they profile me. Read the link again.

And you read this: https://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=17512 If you feel that they indeed "profile" you, I would recommend not to visit the page. Personally, I have no privacy concerns.

Doesn't look like it is to any in particular, at least according to source code.

I think the code is ok. It's not about liking my facebook site, but about liking the XY homepage.

I think it should be about liking your Facebook site, so that when updates are posted to your site, users' News Feed would reflect that. It results in more relevant social integration. I have never encountered a like button that isn't tied up to a Facebook page.

[tux.]

If you feel that they indeed "profile" you, I would recommend not to visit the page.

I would stop visiting such sites if I knew they use illegal spy boxes. There is no way to know this before visiting the particular pages. So that's why I suggest you to not even think about it. For the users.

[zer0]

If you feel that they indeed "profile" you, I would recommend not to visit the page.

I would stop visiting such sites if I knew they use illegal spy boxes. There is no way to know this before visiting the particular pages. So that's why I suggest you to not even think about it. For the users.

.tux, I'm done discussing this with you. You clearly have your own paranoid agenda of spreading FUD. I suggest you disconnect from the Internet if you're concerned about websites "tracking" you.

[tux.]

There is not a choice "privacy or internet". It is not paranoid to state that users seldomly want to be tracked illegally. FUD, eh?

[zer0]

There is not a choice "privacy or internet". It is not paranoid to state that users seldomly want to be tracked illegally. FUD, eh?

I've PMed you, I do not want to carry on discussing this matter with you in this thread.

[admin]

I think the code is ok. It's not about liking my facebook site, but about liking the XY homepage.

I think it should be about liking your Facebook site, so that when updates are posted to your site, users' News Feed would reflect that. It results in more relevant social integration. I have never encountered a like button that isn't tied up to a Facebook page.[/quote]Aha. I'm a social network newbie (I tend to spend my free time in real world...). So is it like this: When I press a Like button that points to facebook site it's like subscribing to a news feed about that site?

[j_c_hallgren]

So is it like this: When I press a Like button that points to facebook site it's like subscribing to a news feed about that site?

sorta -- when you visit FB site, you'll see their postings on your feed...i use it to keep up with some news sites, like local paper and radio station, etc.

but I only see the postings on FB site -- not in any other places.

Addendum: I've found FB to be a good way to keep up with various organizations/media/businesses/friends/etc...it's replaced email for some people I stay in touch with because other common friends can comment also.

[admin]

So is it like this: When I press a Like button that points to facebook site it's like subscribing to a news feed about that site?

sorta -- when you visit FB site, you'll see their postings on your feed...i use it to keep up with some news sites, like local paper and radio station, etc.

but I only see the postings on FB site -- not in any other places.

Addendum: I've found FB to be a good way to keep up with various organizations/media/businesses/friends/etc...it's replaced email for some people I stay in touch with because other common friends can comment also.

OK, thanks. Should be better now.

[zer0]

OK, thanks. Should be better now.

Good effort. I would suggest that you bring those teeny weeny buttons from the very bottom of the page to the top alongside the Facebook and RSS feed buttons. They are small enough to be unobtrusive, you won't get much use out of them otherwise.

[admin]

OK, thanks. Should be better now.

Good effort. I would suggest that you bring those teeny weeny buttons from the very bottom of the page to the top alongside the Facebook and RSS feed buttons. They are small enough to be unobtrusive, you won't get much use out of them otherwise.

I kept some half-heartedly below because I'm unsure of their use and reputation. So you say it's cool and useful to have them up there right "in their face"?