Visual filter suggestions

[jjk]

Thanks Jacky and serendipity for your explains. Unfortunately the tips you give are too complicated.
I'd prefer a built-in solution, e.g. a script command to not add an item in MRU.
Don, perhaps ?

[TheQwerty]

To be honest, I feel patterns used in the scripting command should never be added to the MRU list.

The MRU list should be reserved for patterns explicitly typed by the user. I'm even partly inclined to say Quick Filter patterns shouldn't be added to the MRU either unless we'll eventually be able to access them in the address bar's MRU list.

[jacky]

To be honest, I feel patterns used in the scripting command should never be added to the MRU list.

Yeah, I agree with that. My MRUs for things like VF, Batch/RegExp Rename and the likes are now filled with scripts stuff, and I don't think I like that. And I think it make sense that (most of the times) when using a script to do something you don't really want it in your MRU; the only exception probably being the History of course.

[serendipity]

To be honest, I feel patterns used in the scripting command should never be added to the MRU list.

Yep, I agree too.

[admin]

To be honest, I feel patterns used in the scripting command should never be added to the MRU list.

Yep, I agree too.

Me, too.

[jjk]

Right, well here's a quick update then:

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"&Filter Current Selection"
	end 0==getinfo("CountSelected"), "No selection !", 1;
	replace $sel, report('"{Name}"|', 1), "[", "[[]";
	replace $sel, $sel, "#", "[#]";
	filter $sel;
	status "Selection filtered";

Since the ability to name filters in v.8.90.0014, here is a slightly modified script (from jacky) to filter on selected files only.
Now we have no more a long string in the tab but only |Selected, which is more intelligible.

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"&Filter Current Selection"
	end 0==getinfo("CountSelected"), "No selection !", 1;
	replace $sel, report('"{Name}"|', 1), "[", "[[]";
	replace $sel, $sel, "#", "[#]";
	$sel=""""."Selected".""""." ".$sel;
	filter $sel;
	status "Selection filtered";

[admin]

I plan to add a (optional) very clear mark that a list is filtered and does not show the whole contents of the browsed folder.
Here's a screenshot. Any comments?

[j_c_hallgren]

Here's a screenshot. Any comments?

Even being optional, is this really needed? Given that status bar is blue already on VF and in most all cases, VF also shows in tab...or am I missing something obvious as to need?

[admin]

Here's a screenshot. Any comments?

Even being optional, is this really needed? Given that status bar is blue already on VF and in most all cases, VF also shows in tab...or am I missing something obvious as to need?

There is quite some demand for this. And tabs as well as statusbar (since recently) can be hidden, so with 2 clicks you can create a layout where nothing tells you that the list is filtered.

[PeterH]

Here's a screenshot. Any comments?

Even being optional, is this really needed? Given that status bar is blue already on VF and in most all cases, VF also shows in tab...or am I missing something obvious as to need?

There is quite some demand for this. And tabs as well as statusbar (since recently) can be hidden, so with 2 clicks you can create a layout where nothing tells you that the list is filtered.

But isn't your additional line status-info, and should be part of the status line?
And "3 items of 77" says the same as the new line? Maybe highlite (background) this when filtering?
And maybe force display of the statusline (instead of showing another line) when filtering?

But ok: all ideas with questionmark - as I remember a situation I forgot about filtering. And if you forget you must be reminded in a very direct way - else you will not notice...

[zer0]

There is quite some demand for this. And tabs as well as statusbar (since recently) can be hidden, so with 2 clicks you can create a layout where nothing tells you that the list is filtered.

Rather than trying to invent a way to display a VF status, would it not be easier to make users aware that, if they want to see it, they need to enable either tabs or status bar (or both)? I'm quite puzzled by people who wish to hide ways of displaying information yet ask to have a new way to do so.

Besides, that orange bar in your screenshot is about the same size as SB, so how would it be different from an existing solution?

[admin]

Yes. This orange bar is something that you see without looking for it. You will even subconsciously know that you are looking at a filtered list. I think this is optimal GUI design.

[PeterH]

Yes. This orange bar is something that you see without looking for it. You will even subconsciously know that you are looking at a filtered list. I think this is optimal GUI design.

I think the idea is good.
But for the solution I'm not so sure...

[zer0]

Yes. This orange bar is something that you see without looking for it. You will even subconsciously know that you are looking at a filtered list. I think this is optimal GUI design.

Hmm, not sure. Some users may be colour-blind, so they would not see "in your face" orange bar as obviously as others would. Also, having greyscaled your screenshot, I note that colours of the background caption text do not contrast very well, thus spoiling readability.

[Stefan]

I plan to add a (optional) very clear mark that a list is filtered and does not show the whole contents of the browsed folder.
Here's a screenshot. Any comments?

1.) will this bar be permanent visible (if optional enabled) or only if i use an filter?
I mean: if i set an filter this is shown and if i remove the filter this bar vanish too.
Which would be not good i think 'cus the high of the list would in- and decrease always.

2.) what whit dual panel?
I mean: will there be the same but empty filter bar on the other pane too?

3.) the Visual Filter name could be mentioned in that bar too (in the tab this is often cut off)

4.) will it be that this bar could be abused to show user own messages via scripting?
(status msg is e.g. overwritten by back ground process messages, so this would be an alternative)