XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

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davidhelp
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XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by davidhelp »

Hello
XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer first time opening.
I have whitelisted it in Malwarebytes and Webroot and I am wondering if others have the same issue.

I sometimes have to wait several seconds for the folder to open where I double click or highlight the folder and hit the Enter key to have it open. It usually opens 2 instances at that point. This has happened over the many versions.

It opens right away afterward for any folders. Then sometime later it will delay the opening.

Is it Malwarebytes and Webroot for XYplorer. Or is it the software scanning the contents? (example mp4 music / video files)

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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by RalphM »

Ctrl + Help/Various Information gives you a few hints, which of your settings might affect speed.

Running the following command from the address bar will display the load times of various processes while XY starts up:

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text get("LoadTimes");
This might give you a few ideas to start your investigations.
Ralph :)
(OS: W11 23H2 Home x64 - XY: Current beta - Office 2019 32-bit - Display: 1920x1080 @ 125%)

davidhelp
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by davidhelp »

Opened a folder on my Desktop then added the code: text get("LoadTimes"); and pressed the Enter key.
Does XYployer look over all drives when it opens a folder?
I have a 2nd internal hard drive and a external hard drive for backup.

938 ms seems a bit long.


XY ver: XYplorer 21.20.0200
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (Service Pack 1), 64-bit, Build 7601
Loaded: 2021-01-02 04:45:51 in 938 ms
Threshold: 10 ms

0 ms: 81 ms - Start Load
83 ms: 15 ms - Load Language
112 ms: 45 ms - Init Graphics
164 ms: 18 ms - Create Info Panel
182 ms: 52 ms - Set Interface Font
234 ms: 12 ms - Init Panes
248 ms: 119 ms - Exist Drive I:\
367 ms: 152 ms - Exist Drive J:\
623 ms: 119 ms - Exist Drive I:\
742 ms: 158 ms - Exist Drive J:\
906 ms: 16 ms - Layout List
922 ms: 14 ms - Show Window
938 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=757, Nodes=757, Expanded=33
Remember Tree State: Yes (18 stored paths)
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=48/86, Pane 2: Items=1/6, Catalog: Items=1

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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by highend »

And your tabs are not pointing to these two hdds?

Hold CTRL while clicking on Menu - Help - Various Information
There are more suggestions to gain speedups.

E.g.: Untick Configuration | General | Tree and List | Tree | Remember state of tree
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davidhelp
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

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I use webroot and malwarebytes and have whitelisted the program.
I do not have Microsoft Security Essentials and have Windows Defender turned off.
I open a folder from the desktop that has the files. The folders are not a shortcut to the other hard drives.
On the 2 pane window the left side does list all the drives.


Various Information
Settings that may affect speed

XYplorer: 21.20.0200 (Pro Edition - Lifetime License Pro)
Loaded in: 938 ms at 1/2/2021 4:45:51 AM
Uptime: 50 mins, 12 secs Runtime: 6.00.9815
Memory Usage: 33,624 KB, Virtual Memory Size: 16,796 KB

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (Service Pack 1), 64-bit, Build 7601
OS Uptime: 8 days, 7 hrs, 30 mins, 38 secs
Time Zone: Pacific Standard Time, Pacific Daylight Time
UTC Offset: --08:00
User Role: Admin
Themes: No RealSystem32: Yes

1) A 'Yes' might slow down file operations and browsing:
AutoRefresh: Yes
Network: No
Removables: Yes
During File Ops: No
SHChangeNotify: Yes
Get Folder Sizes: No
Support volume labels in paths: No
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Autosize Columns: No
Icon Overlays: No

2) The bigger (more), the slower:
Tags: tag.dat has 876 bytes (0 tagged items)
Color Filters: No (0 active filters)
Custom File Icons: Yes (0 active icons)
Icon Cache Count: 9
Remember Tree State: Yes
MiniTreePaths: 1 paths
MaxiTreePaths: 18 paths

3) A 'Yes' will speed up browsing:
Generic Icons: No
Generic Icons Network Only: No
Generic Icons For All Controls: No

4) A 'Yes' might slow down selecting an item:
File Info Tips: Yes
File Info Tips Custom: No
File Info Tips Extra: No

5) A 'Yes' might speed up startup:
Cache network servers: No
Servers: servers.dat has 0 servers
No network browsing on startup: No
Fast network enumeration: No (on some systems a Yes makes it slower!)
Pre-check availability of servers: No (on some systems a Yes makes it slower!)

6) A 'Yes' might slow down startup:
Cache folder sizes: No
Reconnect mapped network drives on startup: No

7) Column Layout: Name,Size,Type,Modified,Created,Ext

Slowdown cause number one: An active virus scanner can severely slow down file operations and make XYplorer less responsive. Especially Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender can have a dramatic negative effect on speed. Try to add XYplorer.exe and XYcopy.exe to the exceptions.

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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by highend »

Execute this from the address bar
and show the full output

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text "pane a: " . <crlf> . get("tabs", <crlf>) . <crlf 2> . "pane i: " . <crlf> . get("tabs", <crlf>, "i");
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

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pane a:
C:\Users\David\Desktop\Music

pane i:
Computer

highend
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by highend »

Untick this:
Configuration | General | Tree and List | Tree | Remember state of tree

Save settings, exit XY, try again
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

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Thanks, I will have to wait and see if this is the fix. As mentioned before the slowness will go away then come back at a later time.
I restart my pc only once a week.

davidhelp
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

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XYplorer does hesitate at times to open for a few seconds. I wonder if it is the malwarebytes and webroot programs still scanning even though xyplorer is whitelisted in both.

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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by highend »

"From time to time"

Both of these drives (I + J) are never send to sleep (by your Operating System) so that XY needs to wake them up because of your "Computer" entry in the second pane?
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by mbigger »

I got the same general issue but in another setting:

I have one connected network drive on another machine. If that other machine is running, XY starts relatively quickly. However, if that other machine is not running and the connected network drive not reachable, XY takes forever to start. I've "No network browsing on startup" checked and "Reconnect mapped network drives on startup" unchecked. What's that "Load Other Pane" entry?

XY ver: XYplorer 21.30.0000
OS: Windows 10 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 19042.746
Loaded: 2021-01-18 18:09:35 in 72.459 ms
Threshold: 10 ms

0 ms: 106 ms - Start Load
111 ms: 21 ms - Load Language
132 ms: 39 ms - Load Settings
173 ms: 20 ms - Init Controls
193 ms: 57 ms - Init Graphics
250 ms: 10 ms - Init Tabs
260 ms: 22 ms - Create Info Panel
282 ms: 48 ms - Set Interface Font
330 ms: 16 ms - Init Panes
385 ms: 71.967 ms - Load Other Pane
72.361 ms: 36 ms - Layout List
72.397 ms: 25 ms - Show Window
72.422 ms: 35 ms - Layout List
72.459 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=14, Nodes=14, Expanded=1, Mapped Drives=2
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=0/0, Network, Pane 2: Items=26/26, Catalog: Items=1

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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by highend »

Menu - Panes - [x] Dual Pane.

Does any tab on any of the two panes point to any non-available location?

And make sure that Configuration | General | Tree and List | Tree | [ ] Check existence of subfolders in tree
is unchecked...
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Re: XYplorer does not snap open as quick as Windows explorer

Post by mbigger »

Aha, my Dual Pane view shows that one connected network drive. If that is not reachable, the start of XY will take forever. Once, I replaced the connected network drive in one of the two panes with a local folder, XY starts quickly.

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