Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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amirvf
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Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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Vertical gridlines are almost invisible in 4k displays.
Is there a way to increase the thickness of vertical gridlines and/or change the color?

Attached photo shows the current appearance.
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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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You can change the color:

Configuration | Colors and Styles | Colors | Grid

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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jupe wrote: 05 Nov 2020 20:24 You can change the color:

Configuration | Colors and Styles | Colors | Grid
Still not helpful. It is so thin that changing colors has no impact at all.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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I think your main problem is that you have the grid zebra striping and the vertical grid lines, if you compromise and disable the zebra striping and instead maybe change it to horizontal grid lines and have the below setting disabled you should be able to see the lines easily with a suitable color.

Configuration | Colors and Styles | Styles | Semi-transparent grid color

A quick mock up:
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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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jupe wrote: 05 Nov 2020 20:41 I think your main problem is that you have the grid zebra striping and the vertical grid lines, if you compromise and disable the zebra striping and instead maybe change it to horizontal grid lines and have the below setting disabled you should be able to see the lines easily with a suitable color.

Configuration | Colors and Styles | Styles | Semi-transparent grid color

A quick mock up:
Not making any noticeable difference. Still very thin.
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Are you testing it on a 4k display?

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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No I admit I am not testing it on a 4K monitor, did you change your grid color to a color like white in the screenshot above or is it still set as a pale greenish?

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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jupe wrote: 05 Nov 2020 21:34 No I admit I am not testing it on a 4K monitor, did you change your grid color to a color like white in the screenshot above or is it still set as a pale greenish?
It's in pure white.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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Next beta:

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    + Added tweak to customize the vertical grid lines width (default is 1):
        VerticalGridLinesWidth=2
      A higher width can be useful on 4K displays.
Please let me know if setting it to 2 or higher solves the problem.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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admin wrote: 10 Nov 2020 18:31 Next beta:

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    + Added tweak to customize the vertical grid lines width (default is 1):
        VerticalGridLinesWidth=2
      A higher width can be useful on 4K displays.
Please let me know if setting it to 2 or higher solves the problem.
Sure. I'll test it. But the same thing applies to the separator in the toolbar. Separator is virtually invisible in 4k display.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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Please collect all such problems if you can. I can try then to find a common solution.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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admin wrote: 10 Nov 2020 18:55 Please collect all such problems if you can. I can try then to find a common solution.
Sure. I'll update you.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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In the meantime, could you show me the returns of this command through address bar, please:

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screen;

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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admin wrote: 13 Nov 2020 09:57 In the meantime, could you show me the returns of this command through address bar, please:

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screen;
Also note the adjustments done by "System-Enhanced" in the size of "Pop-Up Box", and "Font Size Inside the Box" which might be helpful to resolve 4k issues.

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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Thanks! The vertical lines problem exists in both cases?

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Re: Vertical Gridlines in 4k display

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admin wrote: 13 Nov 2020 18:18 Thanks! The vertical lines problem exists in both cases?
The second scenario virtually resolves all 4k issues I have seen so far except the low resolution of default icons.

Vertical gridline, separator, etc are also acceptable after system enhancements.

But it has been resolved through a common template by system which is not suitable as a final resolution due to 2 reasons:
1. Applications which are initialized through XY, if DPI override is handled by system, show unexpected DPI behaviours. You could try opening a video file by VLC from XY while the DPI override is active and see the bizarre behaviour. To solve this issue, users should change the DPI override to "APPLICATION" (instead of system-enhanced) for each app which is initialized from XY and shows bizarre DPI behaviour, and this is very annoying.
2. Templates provided by applications to match 4k are generally more acceptable because they are customized specifically for this app by developer and do not follow a general custom template.

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