More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

[LittleBiG]

Ok, my last turn. If you can examine my example, you can see, with UDC and popupmenu command you can create any kind of menu you want. Assign a shortcut to it. Then remap your middle mouse button to send firstly a left click event, secondly your shortcut defined in the previous step. You can do it for example with AutoHotkeys.

The result: middle click on a file will select it then show your menu.

Sorry if I still get you wrong. Now I am joining to highend...

[highend]

The fastest way is to remember the shortcut or to create one via a user defined command.

1-short is even more painful. It requires 2 hands, or letting go of the mouse.

I was just talking about things you didn't find useful...

That's it. no left hand. what is easiest/fastest.

The fastest is a one handed keyboard shortcut (without invoking any menus at all).

Doing something with the mouse for a hundred times *shiver*? If that's efficient for you, ok. Every guy who knows his keyboard will (probably) beg to differ.

Btw, LittleBiG mentioned something else: Autohotkey. No, this doesn't let you integrate the second level menu into the first one. But e.g. using the wheel button (or a 4th / 5th) mouse button to invoke this menu with or without any keyboard modifiers.

[Regmos]

http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2372

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acSendKeys("^p")

[AntKnee]

LittleBig, Thank you. This is VERY useful/helpful. I didn't know about that. I like middle mouse (hand still on mouse), and I can put multiple items in the popup menu. A quick/fast custom menu (most used items), and the middle click is not being used on files right now.

Regmos, that too is pretty neat/handy. Thanks for mentioning.

highend, you are missing it:
1-Why would I create a UDC to change the shortcut when I can just customize the shortcut through the menu and change the default to anything?
2-Shortcuts are not always the best. It requires two hands (one on mouse, one on keyboard). If you don't already have your left hand on the keyboard, you have to move it there (this is time, or it can be tied up with phone, food etc). Also, user usually has to look down to line up (because of the ctrl / alt keys) which means eye/head movement (more time).
Having the ability to only use the mouse to invoke functions is important and vital. Hence why we have toolbar/menus in the first place. The less mouse travel the better, which is why I am bringing up this feature of saving mouse movement.

[SkyFrontier]

As you're finally opening the blinds, be sure to not miss this post. Can't say whether or not your 'quick/fast custom menu' was a mention on it.
Hope this helps.

[highend]

highend, you are missing it

I'm not missing anything, sorry.

Why would I create a UDC to change the shortcut when I can just customize the shortcut through the menu and change the default to anything?

Because it allows scripting as well. Why invoke a full submenu when I only need 5 entries from it...

Shortcuts are not always the best.

They are. Two hands on the keyboard, 10 finger typing. No need to look anywhere than on the screen. The mouse is "for the lazy people" (no offense to anybody). No keyboard shortcuts to remember, no learing curve. No need to know an application. Just clicking and hovering. The thing is: this isn't faster or more efficient. A skilled keyboard user beats a skilled mouse user by factor 5-10 (at the end of the learning curve). If you don't believe that look at some of the sublime text / vim videos. But in the end it doesn't matter. You are a mouse user and there are a few alternatives now. Just choose something that makes you happy.

[AntKnee]

highend, you seem to have an unpleasant attitude and not being objective or productive. If you don't think this is a useful wish, than you can pass (remember: if you don't have anything good to say or contribute...). You are not being helpful at all trying to 'be right' and defending your point that doesn't make sense. Quite immature.

If 'you feel' shortcuts/keyboard is best, that's your opinion and maybe in your usage. Perhaps you would be more comfortable to use commandline DOS or Linux instead of Windows (GUI). You probably won't need XYPlorer either because 'you feel' keyboard is faster for file operations than mouse. Are you going to drag and drop with a keyboard too? How about hover a chart to see values? There is a reason the mouse is still being used after many attempts to find a better tool. I would hardly call it lazy.

If you actually read my responses instead of getting emotional, you would have seen that I wasn't saying to remove the shortcut and only keep the menu, but the option to have both available and making the mouse movement in the menu less. Once again, either method is not always the fastest depending on the situation. I created this post for the ability to have a sub menu item moved closer in the main menu.
You clearly are MISSING it.

Please don't respond with another poor attempt to turn this into a pissing contest. You are not doing this forum any service. Your 'feelings' would be best kept to yourself.

Good day.


PS: Don, I apologize for this thread. I would not have even mentioned such a thing if it was to turn into this. Feel free to remove.

[highend]

Maybe you should read you posting again to find out who is personal / emotional in this thread... I'm not 'feeling' that anything is better than the mouse. This is a simply a technical thing. You've just made clear that scripting (by providing a shorter way to get a 2nd level menu) or keyboard shortcuts in general are bad for your workflow. I've got that. We (me and the other guys in this thread) were making suggestions (UDC / shortcuts / Autohotkey / mouse gesture software) to let you choose what could make you more productive ATM.

[binocular222]

@AntKnee: You can assign a single keyboard shortcut (i.e: pressing "c" will trigger the UDC) => only require 1 finger, not 1 hand

btw, +1 for your argument "you can pass ... if you don't have anything good to say or contribute"

@Highend: be gentle with new ones pls

[highend]

(i.e: pressing "c" will trigger the UDC)

Be careful, single keys without modifiers can easily interfere with e.g. "Type Ahead Find".

[binocular222]

I use single key (without modifier) all the time (super fast and easy to press)
For "Type-Ahead-Find", I hold Shift+ typing the string
Not very pleasant way to "Type-Ahead-Find" but I rarely have to use that TAF (if needed, I press "v" to trigger Visual Filter and start typing the string)

[highend]

For "Type-Ahead-Find", I hold Shift+ typing the string

"Unpleasent" is a good way to describe it *g*. I'm using Listary in the background (mainly to use it's autocompletion on a few dozen most visited folders, but for TAF as well) and it reacts on "find as you type". I never felt comfortable by first invoking it through a hotkey but maybe I'll try that out. Thanks for the hint!