Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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Evolve
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Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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I find both features very helpful
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [x] Show file info tips
InfoTip.png
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [x] Show Hover Box
Hover.png
I want to use both at the same time, but I don't like when something is showing up while I'm just moving the cursor over the file names, so these settings are not for me

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Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show file info tips | [ ] When hovering over the filename
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show Hover Box | [ ] When hovering over the filename
So my only option is to hold Shift for one of them

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Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [x] Show file info tips
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show file info tips | [x] When hovering over the icon
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show file info tips | [x] Only while the shift key is held down
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [x] Show Hover Box
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show Hover Box | [x] When hovering over the icon
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show Hover Box | [ ] Only while the shift key is held down
BTW, Show Hover Box overrides Show file info tips, so I don't even get Info Tip with this combination, I think it's a bug.
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PPS: found a note in HELP
Note: When the File Info Tips and the Hover Box compete for the same place, the Hover Box always wins.
Still think it's a bug: when Shift is unticked for Hover and ticked for Tip, you should get Tip while holding Shift and Hover while not holding it. Only if both ticked/unticked then there is a competition and Hover should win.
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I'm also a user of Mouse Down Blow Up feature
MDBU.png
But the thing is, I don't need both Left-click and Middle-click for the same thing. I can see that Right-click is different having its own sub-settings but the first two are the same.
Can you make it possible to use Left-click instead of Shift for Hover Box / Info Tip? It would be much more convenient for me to use all three without keyboard involvement.
InfoTipSettings.png
HoverSettings.png
PS it should actually be a subset of the icon:
IconTip.png
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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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Too exotic, sorry.

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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I understand, but can you add Ctrl as an option (I can justify binding Ctrl to one of the mouse buttons but not Shift)
And also, please read PPS in the middle, I think there might be a bug there.

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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It says "Only while the shift key ...", not "Always while the shift key ...", but what you say feels natural. I'll just make it like this.

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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How about Ctrl? :) Not only can I justify it's being on my mouse, it's already there :oops:
Plus it would go in parallel with how Ctrl modifies the hover over Toolbar Buttons
without_Ctrl.png
with_Ctrl.png
PS. I just found out that if both Shifts are disabled it seems to already work this way. :shock: But in only one direction: it shows Info Tip when I hold Ctrl and Hover Box w/o Ctrl. I think there should just be an option to use Ctrl instead explicitly and in both directions like Shift.
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Currently not planned. :)

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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Last try... :ninja: Could you add a Tweak to invert what wins so that Info Tip will be shown w/o Ctrl (less info) and Hover Box with Ctrl (more info)?

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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What's going on with this Ctrl? It keeps working in tree even when everything is turned off...

Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [ ] Show Hover Box
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show Hover Box | [ ] When hovering over the icon
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | Show Hover Box | Select Context... [ ] Tree

When I hover over the icons in Tree holding Ctrl, it still shows Hover Box with the folder content. I just want this exact behavior for List, i.e. show Hover Box when holding Ctrl.
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Similar weird stuff in List with Info Tip: if it's turned off, but Hover Box is turned on, it still shows Info Tip if I hold Ctrl.
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [ ] Show file info tips
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [x] Show Hover Box

Can you make it work the opposite way with the opposite combination? To show Info Tip w/o ctrl and Hover Box with Ctrl?

Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [ ] Show Hover Box
Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box | [x] Show file info tips

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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v22.50.0110 - 2021-11-29 12:57
    * Configuration | Information | File Info Tips & Hover Box: Now inverting 
      show/hide via holding CTRL is bound to a tweak (later it will be a UI 
      setting), factory default and upgrades = OFF:
        InfoTipInvertOnCTRL=1

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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Wow, so the tweak is already there (ofc it's there, it's always there! :D )
Are you sure it still works properly though? It was set to 0 default here and despite this it did invert the hover box into the info tip. And I just tried all the possible combinations of settings and wasn't able to make it invert in the opposite direction (info tip into hover box). :(

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Yep, I should have posted this after I fixed the bug. :) Try the next beta.

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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I've got one last request. Ctrl on icon works great, but sometimes by accident :) I place the cursor imperfectly (on file name) and it gives me the Info Tip.
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It also shows up when I use Ctrl for the Cell Context Menu.

I need Ctrl with one of these two combinations of settings to show nothing on file name. Currently they both produce the same output (Info Tip).
CtrlFileName.png
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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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Evolve wrote: 27 Aug 2022 17:29 I've got one last request.
This is the most common misinformation on the forum. :)

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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Well, I meant the last request related to the subject :)
Though you're right here too :mrgreen:
Evolve wrote: 23 Aug 2022 16:18 Last try...
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Evolve wrote: 07 Aug 2022 08:48 I just wanted to ask for one last thing....
Evolve wrote: 04 Oct 2021 09:48 One more thing....
Evolve wrote: 23 Dec 2021 13:41 There is one last tiny thing....
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Actually, the fact it shows Info Tip "Over the file name" again when the cursor is placed to the left of the icon is a bug. It doesn't happen w/o Ctrl (though it does happen w/o Ctrl for Clipped Item Tips which is also a bug). So it's kind of a request/bug report :)

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Re: Hover Box / Info Tip on LMB

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There is the non-icon area, also in the thumbnail view.
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