Layout How to?

[admsupport]

Address bar
(under)
Tool bar (eventually an additional tool bar/a toolbar on two rows)
(under)
Tabs

How I do that? on the layout menu I see only 4 options and either the toolbar eats the tabs space, either the address bar space.

[admin]

Not possible because the toolbar has a fixed size by nature. So depending on your window and toolbar width you would either see grey or have buttons beyond the window borders. I did not like any of these.

[j_c_hallgren]

With all the new features in XY, my toolbar is getting so large that my addr bar is so small as to be almost of no use...now, being on a laptop, my screen is limited in size, so a bigger screen isn't an option...thus...personally, I'd be quite willing to give up some vertical tree/list size to gain a second optional toolbar row...in IE, I have the std IE TB and under it, Google TB, and it works just fine.

Since as I recall, there was no way to make a combo menu and AB (unlike IE) so if I could have an overflow/2nd TB row, then I could regain an AB that would be usable....I also like my tabs on separate row, so that's how I have it config'd.

Is that something that could be possible? This could be done via a config setting that says "2 rows of toolbar" and then a marker (similar to separator) that would define where the line split would occur...yes, this might result in some unused gray space, but I really hate having to choose only a subset of the desired TB icons in order to have even a AB of about 1 1/2 inches.

[graham]

jc wrote:

Is that something that could be possible?

If not possible, how about having a a custom TB button which acts as a switch for swapping the current TB buttons with an alternative set - this would allow the most used to be as set 1 and others as set 2.

[admsupport]

[...] being on a laptop, my screen is limited in size, so a bigger screen isn't an option...thus...personally, I'd be quite willing to give up some vertical tree/list size to gain a second optional toolbar row[...]

I second that

@admi
Any solution that offers the possiblity to have a second, or one exented tool bar. Is the toolbar button acting as a switch already implemented in the latest XY build or is to come?

[admin]

If not possible, how about having a a custom TB button which acts as a switch for swapping the current TB buttons with an alternative set - this would allow the most used to be as set 1 and others as set 2.

I had thought about that as well. Another way would be a button that temporarily pops a 2ndary toolbar that vanishes in the moment you press any of its buttons -- acting just like a menu.

Some sort of solution will have to come, especially since I will add optional larger buttons (probably even in form of individual ICO files -- so you can design your own) in the future.

The general problem is that screen space will always be to small. And the eternal solution: Keyboard shortcuts!

[j_c_hallgren]

The general problem is that screen space will always be to small. And the eternal solution: Keyboard shortcuts!

Not a good solution for us mouse folks! If I am willing to give up approx 3/8" of vertical space for a second line of TB icons, why shouldn't I (and others) be able to? Other pgms I use have more than one row of icons...losing a couple of lines of detail/tree would be a fair trade, and since it would be user controlled, those who don't want it wouldn't be subject to it.

[admin]

The general problem is that screen space will always be to small. And the eternal solution: Keyboard shortcuts!

Not a good solution for us mouse folks! If I am willing to give up approx 3/8" of vertical space for a second line of TB icons, why shouldn't I (and others) be able to? Other pgms I use have more than one row of icons...losing a couple of lines of detail/tree would be a fair trade, and since it would be user controlled, those who don't want it wouldn't be subject to it.

Yes, probably. I'll think about it.

[PeterH]

My opinion: no swapping! I think you had a primary (most used) and a secondary set then - and after using the secondary you probably will need the pri again - and in most cases have to swap a second time.
So I'd prefer a temp popup for the second set - after usage the first (= primary) is available again.

...or the ability to use 2 or more lines, for those using the 2nd set very often.