Slow Load Time Starting with the 26.x Series

[GreetingsFromPoland]

hi! starting with the 26.x series of releases i have been getting slightly slower startup speeds. each time i check it with text get("LoadTimes"); it is always Layout Tabs that is the culprit.

i have dual panes, default tab on each on the left, each pane has a set of locked tabs that haven't changed in ages. one tab in my top pane does point to a NAS mapped drive, all the rest are local.

here is an example of times and this is one of the "faster" startups :

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     0 ms:     218 ms - Start Load
   218 ms:      21 ms - Init Language
   240 ms:      50 ms - Load Language
   290 ms:      63 ms - Load Settings
   353 ms:      30 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   383 ms:      44 ms - Init Controls
   427 ms:     136 ms - Init Graphics
   563 ms:      20 ms - Init Tabs
   583 ms:      51 ms - Create Info Panel
   634 ms:      71 ms - Set Interface Font
   705 ms:      29 ms - Init Panes
   758 ms:      10 ms - Init Tags
   770 ms:      14 ms - Load Mini Tree 3, Mode=0
   784 ms:      24 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
   808 ms:      10 ms - Init UDC and KS
   838 ms:      61 ms - XY64 Init
   900 ms:      10 ms - Layout Bars
   910 ms:      10 ms - Layout Catalog
   920 ms:   2,782 ms - Layout Tabs
 3,702 ms:      41 ms - Layout Status Bar
 3,743 ms:     112 ms - --- Show Window ---
 3,861 ms:      34 ms - Layout Tabs
 3,895 ms:     113 ms - Layout Status Bar
 4,009 ms:     206 ms - XYcopy Init
 4,218 ms:            - Load Done

i don't have any custom icons on the tabs and their names are all the default ones, e.g. the folder name.

what can i troubleshoot to eliminate the delay on Layout Tabs ?

[admin]

starting with the 26.x series ... have you tested this theory with older versions from the freezer?

[GreetingsFromPoland]

have you tested this theory with older versions from the freezer?

hi! not extensively but i have tested it with 25.00.0200 (19-Oct-2023) and 25.90.0100 (23-Apr-2024) and the results are :

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     0 ms:     362 ms - Start Load
   362 ms:      26 ms - Init Language
   389 ms:      65 ms - Load Language
   454 ms:      76 ms - Load Settings
   530 ms:      30 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   560 ms:      56 ms - Init Controls
   616 ms:     156 ms - Init Graphics
   772 ms:      23 ms - Init Tabs
   795 ms:      63 ms - Create Info Panel
   858 ms:     104 ms - Set Interface Font
   962 ms:      28 ms - Init Panes
 1,018 ms:      15 ms - Load Mini Tree 3, Mode=0
 1,033 ms:      22 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
 1,084 ms:      10 ms - Layout Bars
 1,102 ms:      98 ms - Layout Tabs
 1,200 ms:      46 ms - Layout Status Bar
 1,246 ms:     131 ms - --- Show Window ---
 1,381 ms:      40 ms - Layout Tabs
 1,421 ms:     115 ms - Layout Status Bar
 1,541 ms:            - Load Done

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 1,106 ms:     105 ms - Layout Tabs

upon going back to the 26.x series the longer times return. they also vary in the 2k, 3k and even 4k range. for most days, it isn't a real problem because i open XY and it just stays open, rarely ever needing to close or restart it.

[admin]

Interesting. Can't explain it. Nothing like this here. Layout tabs is about 24 msecs (on fresh instance).

[Borut]

@GreetingsFromPoland, the issue you experience is independent of the tab pointing to network (to NAS) being or not being among the tabs which are opened on start?

[GreetingsFromPoland]

hi! good morning all ! currently on 26.20.0107 on another workstation that doesn't have any locked tabs pointing to the NAS. the NAS drive is mapped and does show up in the drive toolbar area. there isn't much customization with this particular workstation. all tabs are locked (minimal number) and point to SSD locations (except 1 points to a local platter drive).

the entries above ... are normal :

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...
 1,054 ms:     123 ms - XY64 Init
 1,181 ms:      25 ms - Layout Bars
 1,207 ms:   5,243 ms - Layout Tabs
 6,450 ms:      30 ms - Layout Status Bar
 6,480 ms:      84 ms - --- Show Window ---
 6,564 ms:      47 ms - Layout Tabs
 6,611 ms:     163 ms - Layout Status Bar
 6,775 ms:      11 ms - Tabsets
 6,786 ms:     361 ms - XYcopy Init
 7,150 ms:            - Load Done

MiniTree: Rows=8, Nodes=17, Expanded=6
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Icon Overlays (List, Tree, Network): Yes, No, No
Network on Startup: Browse=Yes, Reconnect=Yes, CacheServers=Yes
Pane 1: Items=18/76, Pane 2: Items=18/179, Catalog: Items=1
Tagged Items in Database: 0

looking at the first Layout Tabs entry above, what should i be looking at to remove that delay ? i have the following settings :
Configuration | General | Safety Belts, Network | Network | [x] Assume that servers are available
Configuration | General | Safety Belts, Network | Network | [x] Cache network servers
Configuration | General | Startup & Exit | [ ] No network browsing at startup
Configuration | General | Startup & Exit | [x] Reconnect mapped network drives at startup

[admin]

Don't worry about it. Windows has its hiccups and its background noise. It has its caches, and sometimes the caches get old and need to be refreshed. I bet you can only repeat this delay if you wait a long time before the next start. And how often do you start XY anyway? Chillax and use those 5 seconds as a time gift to take a deep breath!