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nas8e9
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Verify for backup

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Firstly, thank you for implementing verification for backup. With regard to the implementation, I have a few questions:
- according to Configuration > File Operations > Background processing > Apply to, backup can't yet be backgrounded. Since XYcopy.exe isn't running when doing a backup, that's obviously still the case. Given that my backup job can last 15 minutes or more, that's slightly unfortunate as it more or less blocks XYplorer. If I'm not mistaken, this is because backup offers additional functionality which the Windows shell file functions can't provide on their own?
- on a related note, backup jobs *are* listed in the Background Jobs window even though they aren't backgrounded?
- neither the Status Bar nor the Background Jobs window show the result of verification. I realise that success is implied by the absence of error messages, but it would give more confidence if both would explicitly state verification success;
- in terms of feedback during backup in the Status Bar, I'd like to see both a display of number / total (e.g. 1 / 5) as well as different messages for the actual backup operation as well as the verify stage (i.e. something like "Backing up test.zip", followed by "Verifying test.zip". A progress indicator during individual stages would be even nicer but probably not feasible performance-wise. Given that XYplorer blocks during non-backgrounded backup, the additional feedback gives more confidence that XYplorer is doing what it should.

Finally, the verification functionality was originally scheduled to be part of XYcopy 2.0. In terms of roadmap and ETA, that's being rescheduled or even cancelled?

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Re: Verify for backup

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nas8e9 wrote:Firstly, thank you for implementing verification for backup. With regard to the implementation, I have a few questions:
- according to Configuration > File Operations > Background processing > Apply to, backup can't yet be backgrounded. Since XYcopy.exe isn't running when doing a backup, that's obviously still the case. Given that my backup job can last 15 minutes or more, that's slightly unfortunate as it more or less blocks XYplorer. If I'm not mistaken, this is because backup offers additional functionality which the Windows shell file functions can't provide on their own?
- on a related note, backup jobs *are* listed in the Background Jobs window even though they aren't backgrounded?
- neither the Status Bar nor the Background Jobs window show the result of verification. I realise that success is implied by the absence of error messages, but it would give more confidence if both would explicitly state verification success;
- in terms of feedback during backup in the Status Bar, I'd like to see both a display of number / total (e.g. 1 / 5) as well as different messages for the actual backup operation as well as the verify stage (i.e. something like "Backing up test.zip", followed by "Verifying test.zip". A progress indicator during individual stages would be even nicer but probably not feasible performance-wise. Given that XYplorer blocks during non-backgrounded backup, the additional feedback gives more confidence that XYplorer is doing what it should.

Finally, the verification functionality was originally scheduled to be part of XYcopy 2.0. In terms of roadmap and ETA, that's being rescheduled or even cancelled?
- yes, but you can simply open an new instance of XY to work on. Takes 1 second. backgrounding of backup operations will come soon, and then it's not long to XYCopy 2.0. From my perspective this is all one task.
- backup jobs *are* listed in the Background Jobs window? not here. how is this possible? do you have a screenshot?
- tick "Popup stats when done" to get a minimal feedback. Furthermore the statusbar will show any failed operations. If there is not "failed" number then everything went fine.
- ok, I added "verify" to the statusbar progress. The total number cannot be given currently at this point. This might change in a later stage.
- XYcopy 2.0. Working on it. This is part of the work.

nas8e9
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Re: Verify for backup

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admin wrote:- yes, but you can simply open an new instance of XY to work on. Takes 1 second. backgrounding of backup operations will come soon, and then it's not long to XYCopy 2.0. From my perspective this is all one task.
Fine for now; thank you.
admin wrote:- backup jobs *are* listed in the Background Jobs window? not here. how is this possible? do you have a screenshot?
Mistake on my part: I saw the *deletes* of the files backed up by way of testing, listed. :oops:
admin wrote:- tick "Popup stats when done" to get a minimal feedback. Furthermore the statusbar will show any failed operations. If there is not "failed" number then everything went fine.
I'm more of a Windows rather than a Linux/Unix guy :). Personally, I'd still like it but as the one fool at the moment...
admin wrote:- ok, I added "verify" to the statusbar progress. The total number cannot be given currently at this point. This might change in a later stage.
That helps, thank you.
admin wrote:- XYcopy 2.0. Working on it. This is part of the work.
Relieved to hear; very curious!

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