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Magnus
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Beta... loading delay

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Using the beta Image

and it takes 11-12 seconds to appear from click on W11. Otherwise it is not often laggy.

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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The current 64-bit beta is still slower, that's a known issue. But 12 sec is extreme, of course. Try this script in the address bar to find out where it hangs:

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text <get loadtimes>;

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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Don, for your info on x64 vs x32 loadtimes, for my computer, by far the bulk of the startup load time difference is due to "Init UDC and KS".
2439 ms for x64
18 ms for x32

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Also here this is the largest number, though not as crass (463 ms of 1681 ms).

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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Those load times were misleading. The next beta will show a different picture. Let me know then.

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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Something fishy with the new load times. As you can see below, I have no tags and as a matter of fact I have tagging under "Features" in Configuration unchecked. So "Update tags in UI Menu" is as a minimum misleading. Is that load time now including UDC since it's not included with KS?

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 27.90.0035 - Lifetime License Enterprise
OS:     	Windows 11, 64-bit, Version 24H2, Build 26100.4946 (10.0)
Loaded: 	2025-08-26 09:12:48 in 4,008 ms
Threshold: 	10 ms (shorter tasks are skipped below)

     0 ms:     263 ms - Start Load
   266 ms:      68 ms - Load Language
   334 ms:     123 ms - Load Settings
   457 ms:      88 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   545 ms:      42 ms - Init Controls
   587 ms:     108 ms - Init Graphics
   695 ms:      18 ms - Init Tabs
   713 ms:      56 ms - Create Info Panel
   769 ms:      70 ms - Set Interface Font
   839 ms:      11 ms - Init Panes
   851 ms:      10 ms - Init Tree
   877 ms:     162 ms - Go Start Path: C:\
 1,039 ms:     149 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
 1,188 ms:      61 ms - Init KS Functions
 1,254 ms:   2,479 ms - Update Tags in UI Menu
 3,754 ms:      12 ms - Layout Bars
 3,766 ms:      70 ms - Layout List
 3,838 ms:      62 ms - --- Show Window ---
 3,900 ms:      24 ms - Layout List
 3,924 ms:      80 ms - Layout Status Bar
 4,008 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=11, Nodes=20, Expanded=2
Network on Startup: Browse=No, Reconnect=No, CacheServers=No, CheckForUpdates=No
Pane 1: Items=150/25, Pane 2: Items=5/25, Catalog: Items=1
Tagged Items in Database: 0
Content-Based Folder Icons: Yes

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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Wouldn't it be nice if the loadtimes message also included the bitness of the current version? ;)
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Re: Beta... loading delay

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klownboy wrote: 26 Aug 2025 15:21 Something fishy with the new load times...
Indeed, will be better in next beta. UDC is so fast, it's under the 10ms threshold.

It's still unclear where the slowness comes from. Later the TB guys will have to look at it.

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MBaas wrote: 26 Aug 2025 15:44 Wouldn't it be nice if the loadtimes message also included the bitness of the current version? ;)
Yes :)

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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Thank you! As a reward, I have good news: 64 is faster for me already!
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Oh, surprising! :tup:

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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XY ver: XYplorer 27.90.0035 - upgraded from v27.90.0034 - Lifetime License Enterprise
OS: Windows 11, 64-bit, Version 24H2, Build 26100.4946 (10.0)
Loaded: 2025-08-26 12:16:29 in 19,797 ms
Threshold: 10 ms (shorter tasks are skipped below)

0 ms: 160 ms - Start Load
160 ms: 13 ms - Init Language
174 ms: 19 ms - Load Language
193 ms: 38 ms - Load Settings
231 ms: 42 ms - Init Custom File Icons
273 ms: 21 ms - Init Controls
294 ms: 190 ms - Init Graphics
493 ms: 29 ms - Create Info Panel
522 ms: 59 ms - Set Interface Font
581 ms: 11 ms - Init Panes
606 ms: 13 ms - Init Tags
620 ms: 18,079 ms - Load Maxi Tree
18,699 ms: 393 ms - Go Start Path: This PC
19,092 ms: 85 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
19,178 ms: 147 ms - Init KS Functions
19,325 ms: 11 ms - Init KS Read
19,336 ms: 86 ms - Update Tags in UI Menu
19,425 ms: 10 ms - List Change Mode from 0 to 2
19,458 ms: 17 ms - Layout Bars
19,475 ms: 98 ms - Layout List
19,582 ms: 71 ms - --- Show Window ---
19,653 ms: 17 ms - Init Menus
19,673 ms: 88 ms - XYcopy Init
19,761 ms: 36 ms - Tree Check Subfolders Exist Late
19,797 ms: - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=1028, Nodes=1029, Expanded=89, Servers=5
Tree Remember State: Yes (48 stored paths)
Tree Check Subfolders Exist: Yes
Network on Startup: Browse=Yes, Reconnect=No, CacheServers=Yes, CheckForUpdates=No
Pane 1: Items=4/4, Pane 2: Items=1/4, Catalog: Items=1
Tagged Items in Database: 0
Content-Based Folder Icons: Yes

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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Just another example - here is how it looks at my place:
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Win 10 Pro 64bit

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Okay, nothing stands out as particularly bad.

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Re: Beta... loading delay

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admin wrote: 26 Aug 2025 09:47 The current 64-bit beta is still slower, that's a known issue. But 12 sec is extreme, of course. Try this script in the address bar to find out where it hangs:

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text <get loadtimes>;
BTW, totally forgot about llog;, a cooler way to achieve the same.

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