XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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alxdvc
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XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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Hello,

I've been trying to create an XYplorer configuration based on its own .ini for any given project, but I'm unable to get this right:

I am on project ABC with XYplorer configured with specific tabs. Now I want to create a new XYplorer configuration for project XYZ without overwriting ABC project configuration, so first I created a backup of ABC which I will then edit for XYZ: File / Setting Special / Backup application data folder


and I saved it here : C:\Users\OFFLINE-PROC\Documents\alxdvc\XYplorer Cyclades the name of this new project is " Cyclades" (XYZ) and I renamed the .ini file in this new backup folder as Cyclades.ini
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Then I need to edit the XYplorer.exe link, which I copied in the same folder, so that it points to the Cyclades.ini within the same folder , using this syntax : [my path]\XYplorer.exe /ini=[my path]\Cyclades.ini
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"C:\Program Files (x86)\XYplorer /ini=C:\Users\OFFLINE-PROC\Documents\alxdvc\XYplorer Cyclades\Cyclades.ini"
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but when I apply, I am getting this error :
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So what am I doing wrong?
thanks in advance!

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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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Missing the double quote after the =?
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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@alxdvc just to be sure: if you're making a whole separate config for not some drastic different settings for whole XY, but actually just for a number of specific tabs opened on start - you can do that in same config via Tabsets, making new ones for each new project and switching between them.
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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eil wrote: 25 Jan 2025 21:55 @alxdvc just to be sure: if you're making a whole separate config for not some drastic different settings for whole XY, but actually just for a number of specific tabs opened on start - you can do that in same config via Tabsets, making new ones for each new project and switching between them.
Thank you, indeed for each projects the folders will be all different, so I need completely stand alone XY plorer based on each project, which I did, now there is a xyplorer folder with all its files,
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plus the .exe shortcult which uses the .ini file placed in this folder:
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So I placed a shortcut of this .exe in the desktop, and now I am just using this version of xyplorer, specifically done for this project "cyclades"
is this the right way of doing it?
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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alxdvc wrote: 01 Feb 2025 17:40 So I placed a shortcut of this .exe in the desktop, and now I am just using this version of xyplorer, specifically done for this project "cyclades"
is this the right way of doing it?
It depends what is the right way for you. If each instance has very different settings, like pre-configured views, lots of custom collumns and user buttons, specific settings(like Color Filters, OpenWith, etc) being different - then probably multiple intances is the way. If those projects are solely about different number of tabs and locations opened in those = internal Tabsets feature could handle that in one and the same XY instance.
But surely you're free to do it the way more comfortable for you.
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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By using tabsets and folder view settings, I believe you could achieve this a lot easier.
One big downside of using different instances is to maintain general settings you want to change at some later time, where yo would need to make these changes to each instance.
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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eil wrote: 01 Feb 2025 22:50
alxdvc wrote: 01 Feb 2025 17:40 So I placed a shortcut of this .exe in the desktop, and now I am just using this version of xyplorer, specifically done for this project "cyclades"
is this the right way of doing it?
It depends what is the right way for you. If each instance has very different settings, like pre-configured views, lots of custom collumns and user buttons, specific settings(like Color Filters, OpenWith, etc) being different - then probably multiple intances is the way. If those projects are solely about different number of tabs and locations opened in those = internal Tabsets feature could handle that in one and the same XY instance.
But surely you're free to do it the way more comfortable for you.
thanks eil, well i am not sure, each project has the same folder sructure but different names, i am not sure how would one unique instance of XYplorer handle this, because I would have to create more tabs, and keep both project A and project B ... project n in the same XYplorer? messy.

But now I see another problem, when I create a backup of my XYplorer folder, and place this backup on a different folder, say project A,
then I create another backup of xyplorer, for project B, in another folder, and I create two distinguished .lnk shortcuts to recall the 2 XYplorer instances, one with which points to the .ini for project A and another one with which points to the .ini for project B , in another folder... however I seem to get always the same XYplorer instance!!!! if I add a new tab on project B, omgatab, when I open XYplorer from the .ini of project A, I get this same omegatab!! am I doing the procedure wrong?

But above all, isn't this process too complex, just to run different instances of XYplorer based on different projects? why it has to be so complicated?

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RalphM wrote: 02 Feb 2025 02:29 By using tabsets and folder view settings, I believe you could achieve this a lot easier.
One big downside of using different instances is to maintain general settings you want to change at some later time, where yo would need to make these changes to each instance.
Yes. :tup:

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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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alxdvc wrote: 02 Feb 2025 02:42 But now I see another problem, when I create a backup of my XYplorer folder, and place this backup on a different folder, say project A,
then I create another backup of xyplorer, for project B, in another folder, and I create two distinguished .lnk shortcuts to recall the 2 XYplorer instances, one with which points to the .ini for project A and another one with which points to the .ini for project B , in another folder... however I seem to get always the same XYplorer instance!!!! if I add a new tab on project B, omgatab, when I open XYplorer from the .ini of project A, I get this same omegatab!! am I doing the procedure wrong?

But above all, isn't this process too complex, just to run different instances of XYplorer based on different projects? why it has to be so complicated?
Obviously, when you copy your XY folder, all the INI settings inside still link to original configured places. If you have installed version and simply copy XY app folder - for sure it will read from INI in system's app data folder and whatever changes made in one copy, would get "shared between copies". So first, you need to use portable version. Second, you must extract from original archive to new locations and set that copy from the start, otherwise you still may get "copies reading/writing settings from original location".

And surely it is complex, 'cause you yourself (for some reason) over-complicating it. It's like you have an office, a working table there, and instead of simply buying some few different folders for work-projects, to put them on the edge of the table and pick one when needed, you decide to rent a whole new offices for each project.(with all furniture and new tables there) So you really should check Tabsets feature.
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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alxdvc: have you looked at the script "SessionManager" by FluxTorpedoe? Offhand it sounds like what you need. I use it often and it works great.
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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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eil wrote: 05 Feb 2025 20:43
alxdvc wrote: 02 Feb 2025 02:42 But now I see another problem, when I create a backup of my XYplorer folder, and place this backup on a different folder, say project A,
then I create another backup of xyplorer, for project B, in another folder, and I create two distinguished .lnk shortcuts to recall the 2 XYplorer instances, one with which points to the .ini for project A and another one with which points to the .ini for project B , in another folder... however I seem to get always the same XYplorer instance!!!! if I add a new tab on project B, omgatab, when I open XYplorer from the .ini of project A, I get this same omegatab!! am I doing the procedure wrong?

But above all, isn't this process too complex, just to run different instances of XYplorer based on different projects? why it has to be so complicated?
Obviously, when you copy your XY folder, all the INI settings inside still link to original configured places. If you have installed version and simply copy XY app folder - for sure it will read from INI in system's app data folder and whatever changes made in one copy, would get "shared between copies". So first, you need to use portable version. Second, you must extract from original archive to new locations and set that copy from the start, otherwise you still may get "copies reading/writing settings from original location".

And surely it is complex, 'cause you yourself (for some reason) over-complicating it. It's like you have an office, a working table there, and instead of simply buying some few different folders for work-projects, to put them on the edge of the table and pick one when needed, you decide to rent a whole new offices for each project.(with all furniture and new tables there) So you really should check Tabsets feature.

thanks Eli, so: "So first, you need to use portable version. " where can I download a portable version? I see no specific download options in the website. Or... how do I configure an XY plorer to be portable?

Basically I have several projects with the same folder structure, and i need to configure an XY plorer for each project. I understood that I can't backup the application data folder and use a specific .ini file for each project, I tried, it doesn't work.

But once I manage to create this portable version, then I reckon I won't need to do this other part?

" Second, you must extract from original archive to new locations and set that copy from the start, otherwise you still may get "copies reading/writing settings from original location"."


My goal is: Project A , with its own XYplorer portable, evocket from Project A folder
Project B , with its own XYplorer portable, evocket from Project B folder


No brainer then, I want to avoid to have to re edit some CMD lines each time.....

Please let me know how to do this portable version of XYplorer?

thanks again!
Alex

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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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https://www.xyplorer.com/download.php#portable

and removing the startup.ini file would make an installed version a portable one as well (ofc not in a UAC protected path^^)
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highend wrote: 09 Feb 2025 21:27 https://www.xyplorer.com/download.php#portable

and removing the startup.ini file would make an installed version a portable one as well (ofc not in a UAC protected path^^)
thanks a lot!!!

So, I have extracted all the files from the portable download to this project specific folder
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And by evoking it from the XYplorer.exe from within this project specific folder, I will now have a dedicated XY plorer,
I can create a shortcult of this dedicated XYplorer.exe ,rename it project specific and I should be good to go ?

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Re: XYPlorer configuration for different project?

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Also, where is the dual plane now?
I guess i need to enable some setting... but where? Strange it is not coming by default?
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And you are unable to look into the "Panes" menu item?
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