Delay after update 25.80

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Rolando
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Delay after update 25.80

Post by Rolando »

Goodmorning all,

After the 25.80 update, moving and deleting files suddenly takes much longer. Previously an action like moving or deleting was performed immediately. Now when I delete a file or move it to another folder nothing happens for 3 seconds before the action takes place.

Is this something more users have experienced?

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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by Horst »

Not for me.
The times are as usual.
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Ysl
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by Ysl »

Looks normal here...

daniel_m
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by daniel_m »

Same here since I updated to 25.80. It only affects move and delete operations.

There's no delay with "::fresh;", so it is one of my settings. But it was definitively introduced with 25.80.
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GreetingsFromPoland
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by GreetingsFromPoland »

hi! this may or may not fix your issue, but it's a simple fix to try. i was having other issues when copy/moving/etc. files and it was recommended that i change/set this tweak :

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CustomCopyNoDoEvents=0
after doing this, my issue was solved. maybe it will help you out and help admin track down any possible connection or issues.

daniel_m
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by daniel_m »

I had CustomCopyNoDoEvents=0 already set in my xyplorer.ini.

Still trying to figure out what triggers the freeze. I suspect it is a combination of two settings ...
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daniel_m
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by daniel_m »

Okay, after some fiddling, the issue turned out to be CBFINetwork=1.

When I set CBFINetwork to 0, XYplorer doesn't freeze any more when I delete files. Unfortunately, this does break custom file icons for empty folders on my network drive (*\ /e>ABS96_coloured-folders_icons.icl /2).
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Rolando
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by Rolando »

thanks for the help guys, unfortunately with me the settings are already as you recommend, and the problem occurs.

It is indeed odd that it only occurs when moving and deleting files.

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Re: Delay after update 25.80

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Rolando wrote: 24 Mar 2024 11:39After the 25.80 update, moving and deleting files suddenly takes much longer. Previously an action like moving or deleting was performed immediately. Now when I delete a file or move it to another folder nothing happens for 3 seconds before the action takes place.
From which version did you update?

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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by daniel_m »

For me, stable 25.70.0000 was fine. All later versions from 25.70.0001_beta to 25.80.0005_beta have this bug.

It's weird that changing CBFINetwork to 0 helped me, but not Rolando. I do get the same freeze for a few seconds after a move or delete operation. Copying files works fine.

The freeze happens on local drives as well as on my network drive.
I tried CBFIBlackList= with h, h:. h:\, but none of those settings made a difference on drive H.

While CBFINetwork=0 gets rid of the freezes, it breaks custom file icons for empty folders (only on my network drive).
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by admin »

I assume the problem disappears when you disable Custom File Icons?

BTW, the correct syntax is:

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CBFIBlackList=H:\*

daniel_m
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by daniel_m »

You are right, disabling Custom File Icons gets rid of the freezes. But it is *\ /e>ABS96_coloured-folders_icons.icl /2 specifically.
I can enable Custom File Icons and don't get any freezes as long as *\ /e>ABS96_coloured-folders_icons.icl /2 is disabled. Other custom file icons like code\>ABS96_coloured-folders_icons.icl /12 and *.txt>ABS96_coloured-folders_icons.icl /10 work without introducing freezes, even on my network drive.
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by admin »

Strange. I use *\ /e all the time, it's one of my favorite XY features. I never get any delays. Something else must play a role. :maf:

Are you totally sure that 25.70.0000 is good and 25.70.0001 is bad?

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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by daniel_m »

Yes, I double checked, 25.70.0000 is good and 25.70.0001 is bad.

Just for fun, I tried the default *\ /e><xypath>\XYicon_FolderEmpty.ico, with the same result (freeze).

With a clean default XYplorer.ini and only CBFINetwork=1 plus EnableCustomFileIcons=1 changed, XYplorer doesn't freeze. So yes, there must be another setting in my config together with CBFINetwork=1 that triggers the bug. That would also explain why Rolando (presumably) sees freezes despite CBFINetwork=0.

If this information is not enough to hunt down the bug, I can experiment some more with XYplorer.ini tomorrow.
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Re: Delay after update 25.80

Post by admin »

The differences between 25.70.0000 and 25.70.0001 are small. I don't see anything suspicious at the moment.

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