System KS

ivan · Post by **ivan** » 30 Jul 2008 18:58

Just off the top of my head, I thought I'd check if in the list of freely available there is omnipresent Ctrl+Alt+Del and there it was. Just curious why a system KS (and others) like this would be made available considering that it always invokes something that an OS does or does setting it override the system value and if they're even configurable?

Star Weaver · Post by **Star Weaver** » 31 Jul 2008 16:45

It may be listed there (and it may be reported by something as unbound) but you can't SET it. If you try, at least on XP, you'll just get the system CTRL-ALT-DEL response instead of "CTRL-ALT-DEL" appearing in the input box. The system apparently filters it out at some low level before the API, at least in later versions (maybe starting at 2000, since that's the first one with C-A-Del for login ... or was it NT)

My work workstation actually uses the "ctrl-alt-delete before any login" feature, which i've never enabled on any of my own, and it has a "why??" button which pops up a shpeil about how this protects you from giving your user/pass to a malicious fake login prompt because only the core system can use that key combination, or some such.

jacky · Post by **jacky** » 31 Jul 2008 17:16

Star Weaver wrote:It may be listed there (and it may be reported by something as unbound) but you can't SET it.

Actually you can, click on the button "All Free Shortcuts", then select it on the list & add it. Of course you won't be able to use it, still, but you can assign it...

ivan · Post by **ivan** » 31 Jul 2008 18:06

Star Weaver wrote:It may be listed there (and it may be reported by something as unbound) but you can't SET it. If you try, at least on XP, you'll just get the system CTRL-ALT-DEL response instead of "CTRL-ALT-DEL" appearing in the input box. The system apparently filters it out at some low level before the API, at least in later versions (maybe starting at 2000, since that's the first one with C-A-Del for login ... or was it NT)

That was kind of the point of the question: why make it available if system takes over before XYplorer reacts?

Post by **admin** » 31 Jul 2008 18:20

ivan wrote:
Star Weaver wrote:It may be listed there (and it may be reported by something as unbound) but you can't SET it. If you try, at least on XP, you'll just get the system CTRL-ALT-DEL response instead of "CTRL-ALT-DEL" appearing in the input box. The system apparently filters it out at some low level before the API, at least in later versions (maybe starting at 2000, since that's the first one with C-A-Del for login ... or was it NT)
That was kind of the point of the question: why make it available if system takes over before XYplorer reacts?

Whoops. I'll take it out of there... thanks!

ivan · Post by **ivan** » 31 Jul 2008 18:25

admin wrote:Whoops. I'll take it out of there... thanks!

Is there more than one system combo like that? That one was a bit obvious

P.S. Also, what if you've already got a KS configured in keyboard software (like Logitech's SetPoint)?

Post by **admin** » 31 Jul 2008 18:27

ivan wrote:
admin wrote:Whoops. I'll take it out of there... thanks!
Is there more than one system combo like that? That one was a bit obvious

P.S. Also, what if you've already got a KS configured in keyboard software (like Logitech's SetPoint)?

1. Dunno.
2. Your problem.

Expert answers...

Star Weaver · Post by **Star Weaver** » 31 Jul 2008 19:57

ivan wrote:
admin wrote:Whoops. I'll take it out of there... thanks!
Is there more than one system combo like that? That one was a bit obvious

P.S. Also, what if you've already got a KS configured in keyboard software (like Logitech's SetPoint)?

Er, Setpoint will make your mouse send Ctrl-Alt-Squiggle, and XY will hear Ctrl-Alt-Squiggle and frobnitz. Congrats, you just bound MouseN to frobnitz.

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Also: Hadn't realized that you could just pick from the list of frees ... ^_^

ivan · Post by **ivan** » 31 Jul 2008 20:11

Star Weaver wrote:Er, Setpoint will make your mouse send Ctrl-Alt-Squiggle, and XY will hear Ctrl-Alt-Squiggle and frobnitz. Congrats, you just bound MouseN to frobnitz. .

Mouse? I'm not following. I only meant it for keyboard buttons

Star Weaver · Post by **Star Weaver** » 01 Aug 2008 01:01

Keyboard? O_o. I've only ever been able to configure mice with setpoint. OTOH, the only logitech keyboard i've owned is my g15, and it has it's own mess of softwares.