UDC icons

[Gandolf]

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v6.60.0051 - 2007-12-07 21:24
  +++ Menu User: now all the UDC submenus have icons.
      Note: not all menu items can be assigned an icon, for various and
      mostly obvious reasons depending on the nature of the UDC category
      and the format of the actual command. 

Can there be an option to turn off the icons? They often don't relate to the UDC command and look horrible because of the re-sizing.

[admin]

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v6.60.0051 - 2007-12-07 21:24
  +++ Menu User: now all the UDC submenus have icons.
      Note: not all menu items can be assigned an icon, for various and
      mostly obvious reasons depending on the nature of the UDC category
      and the format of the actual command. 

Can there be an option to turn off the icons? They often don't relate to the UDC command and look horrible because of the re-sizing.

I did not get much feedback on the icons (although it was a lot of work to add them! ) -- is it because everybody finds them ugly? Hey, I would love to get them there unshrinked but I cannot! I don't find an acceptably easy way to alter the height of menu items (from 13 to 16 pixels) per app! (And you don't want me to do it system-wide right?)

[Gandolf]

Assuming that other people don't want them I would rather they were removed, particularly since they don't always correspond to the command. It's a pity if you spent a lot of work adding them.

However, the algorithm that you are using for shrinking the icons appears to be part of the problem. I've tried shrinking various icons to 13X13 from 48X48, 32X32 & 16X16 with several different graphics programs. They all produce similar results which are better than those in XY's UDC menu. Do you have control over the algorithm?

Also, x² has spacing between menu items that is different for different items, 17 pixels if there are no icons and 20 if there are icons, so at least in the language that x² is written in it can be done.

[jacky]

I did not get much feedback on the icons (although it was a lot of work to add them! ) -- is it because everybody finds them ugly? Hey, I would love to get them there unshrinked but I cannot! I don't find an acceptably easy way to alter the height of menu items (from 13 to 16 pixels) per app! (And you don't want me to do it system-wide right?)

Well, I like them. They may not be the most good looking kind, but they don't look ugly to me (maybe I got lucky) and AFAIC they are mostly linked to what the UDC does.

I mean, for Move To/Go To/etc it's a folder icon, sure I can't tell if there's a VF or Name Search defined, but either all folder icon or no icon at all gets the same results, and for Open (With) it's all the right icon (eg. I got WinRAR's icon for Extract here, etc), and it actually is a nice visual aid.

An INI Tweak to disable them maybe, but removing them I vote against, even as default.

[admin]

However, the algorithm that you are using for shrinking the icons appears to be part of the problem. I've tried shrinking various icons to 13X13 from 48X48, 32X32 & 16X16 with several different graphics programs. They all produce similar results which are better than those in XY's UDC menu. Do you have control over the algorithm?

I have full control. And I think they are the best that one can do when shrinking from 16x16 to 13x13.

I don't think they look too ugly, by the way:

Also, x² has spacing between menu items that is different for different items, 17 pixels if there are no icons and 20 if there are icons, so at least in the language that x² is written in it can be done.

I'm aware of it. And I'm sure it can be done in my language, too. Just gotta find out how...

[Gandolf]

Mine looked nothing like that, just little coloured blobs (1920x1200 SFP display).

However, it's irrelevant now since following your change to the selection of the Info Panel tab's I've finally abandoned XY.

[j_c_hallgren]

However, it's irrelevant now since following your change to the selection of the Info Panel tab's I've finally abandoned XY.

I highlighted the part that really concerns me, as Gandolf has been such a long-time and valuable contributor here...it's not good customer relations to have users like that say this, and could even affect potential future users/sales (ok, so chances are slim, but even one less isn't positive)...

I don't recall the issue involved and havn't looked for it, but whatever it is, I think we need to find a resolution that solves the issue, as Gandolf may just be one user but may voice the opinion of others who don't visit here.

[Jeff Bellune]

Apparently, Gandolf uses AutoHotKey to create keyboard shortcut macros that work in the apps on his system, including XY.

When Don made the Info panel button a toggle (my feature request), it screwed up Gandolf's AHK macros so that he often ended up with the Info panel hidden when it should have been displayed.

But Gandolf has also mentioned using x2 for some time now; I can only assume it fills a need that can't (yet) be handled by XY.

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but in case he doesn't post back, it's possible this Info panel toggle issue was the last straw for him.

-Jeff