DnD with Thunderbird

panorama · Post by **panorama** » 15 Jun 2007 18:48

Hi all

Is it just me, or does Drag n Drop not work with Thunderbird mails as I have read it does with Outl**k?

If it's not just me, is this something that might happen if we all ask nicely?

Happy W E!

Post by **admin** » 15 Jun 2007 19:02

For all I know Thunderbird does not support d'n'd at all. Or can you drop from it to Explorer?

Laughing Man · Post by **Laughing Man** » 15 Jun 2007 19:24

You can't drag and drop at all in Thunderbird (not to XYplorer or Windows Explorer).

I think it's how they code it..since all the emails are held in the profile folder in a database or something like that. Because if I want to get email in a format I can move around or read in other email programs I have to export them from Thunderbird which produces .eml files.

panorama · Post by **panorama** » 15 Jun 2007 19:36

admin wrote:For all I know Thunderbird does not support d'n'd at all. Or can you drop from it to Explorer?

Just tried, no it doesn't, sorry. I just figured that anything Outl**k can do Tbird can do better.

But FYI, XY pops up a "nothing to drop" message while explorer leaves you clueless as to why nothing happens...

Once again, thanks for XY and for your support. Probably the best 22 € I ever spent

Well come to think of it, not the absolute best, but I don't want to get into that ... !

panorama · Post by **panorama** » 15 Jun 2007 19:39

Laughing Man wrote:You can't drag and drop at all in Thunderbird (not to XYplorer or Windows Explorer)..

OK, thanks. PITY - but won't keep us from laughing this weekend, will it?

Post by **admin** » 15 Jun 2007 19:41

panorama wrote:Well come to think of it, not the absolute best, but I don't want to get into that ... !

Laughing Man · Post by **Laughing Man** » 16 Jun 2007 17:58

panorama wrote:
Laughing Man wrote:You can't drag and drop at all in Thunderbird (not to XYplorer or Windows Explorer)..
OK, thanks. PITY - but won't keep us from laughing this weekend, will it?

Haha this won't but another issue will (non computer related). Though I do wish TB had drag and drop. That or a way to mass export your emails (you can't highlight them all and export, you have to do it one at a time as far as I'm aware).

lukescammell · Post by **lukescammell** » 25 Jun 2007 12:04

I to lament the lack fo D&D in TB - they *REALLY* need to add that functionality. Until they d, you may find the following useful

https://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html

Laughing Man · Post by **Laughing Man** » 28 Jun 2007 00:06

Thanks! That helps alot!

agnul · Post by **agnul** » 28 Jun 2007 08:40

Laughing Man wrote:I think it's how they code it..since all the emails are held in the profile folder in a database or something like that. Because if I want to get email in a format I can move around or read in other email programs I have to export them from Thunderbird which produces .eml files.

Must... resist... the urge... to bash Outlook

Thunderbird mailboxes are plain text files, in the so-called mbox format. Thats an oooooold standard that pretty any mail client can handle without need of exporting messages. Any mail client except microsoft ones, that is

Other than the mailbox files in your profiles folder you'll fine one .msf file for each mail folder, but that's just a index files to speed up things, and it can be safely deleted/ignored. T-bird rebuilds it if deleted, other clients have no need of it.

lukescammell · Post by **lukescammell** » 28 Jun 2007 09:40

Agreed on the Outlook format, but it's pretty poor of the TB devs not to have included email D&D in TB2. You have to admit that as well.

agnul · Post by **agnul** » 28 Jun 2007 10:53

lukescammell wrote:Agreed on the Outlook format, but it's pretty poor of the TB devs not to have included email D&D in TB2. You have to admit that as well.

Truth is I never noticed TB doesn't support DnD, but I'm not claiming TB is perfect... far from it. I have my (longish) set of gripes about it. Mailbox format is not one of them

Laughing Man · Post by **Laughing Man** » 03 Jul 2007 22:51

agnul wrote:
Laughing Man wrote:I think it's how they code it..since all the emails are held in the profile folder in a database or something like that. Because if I want to get email in a format I can move around or read in other email programs I have to export them from Thunderbird which produces .eml files.
Must... resist... the urge... to bash Outlook

Thunderbird mailboxes are plain text files, in the so-called mbox format. Thats an oooooold standard that pretty any mail client can handle without need of exporting messages. Any mail client except microsoft ones, that is

Other than the mailbox files in your profiles folder you'll fine one .msf file for each mail folder, but that's just a index files to speed up things, and it can be safely deleted/ignored. T-bird rebuilds it if deleted, other clients have no need of it.

Haha thanks for the info. I'm guessing they're stored in the profile folder then?

I ask because I use Thunderbird in Linux and Windows but I didn't want to create a partition just to put them together so they could sync up. But sometimes I want to read an email on my Windows TB that has been downloaded and deleted so my Linux TB can't download it. So how would I go about loading that email? So far I've resorted to exporting the emails into a directory that I can load them up in as necessary.

agnul · Post by **agnul** » 04 Jul 2007 10:09

Laughing Man wrote:Haha thanks for the info. I'm guessing they're stored in the profile folder then?

Yup, in your profile under the "Mail" folder you should have a folder for each POP3 email account. (IMAP mail is, surprisingly, under "ImapMail").

Laughing Man wrote:I ask because I use Thunderbird in Linux and Windows but I didn't want to create a partition just to put them together so they could sync up. But sometimes I want to read an email on my Windows TB that has been downloaded and deleted so my Linux TB can't download it. So how would I go about loading that email? So far I've resorted to exporting the emails into a directory that I can load them up in as necessary.

A nice trick could be to put the profiles folder on a partition shared by both windows and linux... but back to the point. There's not an easy way :-D The mailbox format may be standard, but that doesn't make picking a random message from the mailbox simple. All messages are stored in a single text file, each one beginning with a "From..." line or something like that. Exporting a single message would mean either parsing the file with some perl and print out only the message you're looking for, or parse the msf file (which in current version is in an odd format called mork) and seek into the mailbox file.

My suggestion? If possible change your accounts to IMAP

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