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More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 12 Mar 2014 22:21
by AntKnee
After Right Click file, I see the "To Clipboard" and then expand menu has the option/functionality that I want.
Is there a way to get one of those expanded options to the main context menu? This way for a frequently used option, I don't have to expand and select every time.

Ultimately it would be great to have any 'Sub-Context Item' to be put in main context menu. I can see it being used for Zip as well.

Thank you.

Re: Copy File Path

Posted: 12 Mar 2014 22:47
by calude
didnt search a lot...
right click/To clipboard/Item path name
or ctrl+P

Re: Copy File Path

Posted: 13 Mar 2014 07:32
by Regmos
Tools => Configuration... => Menus, Mouse, Safety => click File List... => check To Clipboard

Re: Copy File Path

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 00:40
by AntKnee
I'm not asking for the option/functionality (I know it exists), but how to access it.
I'm looking for a way to put it (or any option that is in the sub menu, which requires expanding) in the main menu. Meaning, i don't have to expand out the 'To Clipboard'. It can be set in the first menu. So all I have to do is right click and select. Makes it a lot easier/faster when doing the same function many times.

On a side note, it would also be nice to use the same name for both the menu and the config listing. Instead of 'Copy To' in config and 'To Clipboard' in the menu. This way it is easier and more consistent to identify what it means.

Re: File Expanded Context Menu Item in Main Context Menu

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 09:05
by highend
Simply not possible atm. Iirc CEA (custom event actions) are on the roadmap and should allow such kind of behavior.

The fastest way is to remember the shortcut or to create one (if necessary with a one liner script that invokes the id of the command) via a user defined command.

Re: File Expanded Context Menu Item in Main Context Menu

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 12:46
by AntKnee
I know it is not possible now, that is why I posted in the 'Wishes' section.

For the workarounds they are not helpful:
1-short is even more painful. It requires 2 hands, or letting go of the mouse. Both to efficient.
2-Custom button means selecting the file, moving to click button. If you have file on bottom panel, and you move to toolbar, it is more mouse movement.

Really this would be a more customized right click menu to allow any command at any position/grouping.

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 13:01
by highend
I didn't even mention custom buttons...

As long as Don doesn't implement CEAs the fastest way are UDCs (user defined commands).
Why? Because you can use any shortcut key you want. Sure, you probably have to steal a few
of the standard ones to make one handed operation the way you like but that's just personal choice.

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 13:34
by AntKnee
sorry, i mis-read your previous post and thought you meant custom buttons.
UDCs don't solve the issue, and actually create he same problem. As far as I know, UDC's can only be created/tied to a category. Which means, they will have to be set to a sub menu, and not the 1st context menu that pops up.
http://www.xyplorer.com/tour/?page=udc

I think you are missing what i am referring to, or i am not explaining well.
The idea is to allow Any command to be put Anywhere in the context, and not be limited/forced to using expanded 2nd menus. This allows for a more fully customized right click menu.

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 13:45
by highend
You don't get it. UDC are not about inserting menu commands (or better: their function) but about assigning menu commands to keyboard shortcuts. It's the fastest alternative as long as CEA is not available.

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 13:54
by LittleBiG
Highend is right. Please read the help of UDC and the "popupmenu" script command bit more closely and you will be able to create the desired menu.

ADDITIONALLY: my very primitive example is here.
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Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 14:21
by highend
For what he asked for it's even simpler:
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Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 14:26
by LittleBiG
I overcomplicated. :mrgreen:

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 14:58
by AntKnee
Thanks for your help trying to create a workaround that will provide such ability currently. But neither of these are more helpful or useful. They do not solve what i was looking for or make it faster/easier than what is currently built in. I might as well just use the shortcut (ctrl+p) or mouse>>expand. With the UDC, I cannot right click a file and have it appear right there, correct? Anything else will take extra effort for the same effect.

I wanted the ability to put any command at any place in the context menus.
To have a way to set where commands are grouped. It is a matter of re-arranging existing commands in the current list.

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 15:04
by highend
A one-handed shortcut isn't easier / faster than a two-handed? Ok, time to leave...

Re: More Customized Context Menu-Don't Expand Items

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 15:13
by AntKnee
one handed? i think we are talking about different thing. you can hit ctrl+p with one hand. they have a ctrl on the right of spacebar. but i use dvorak keyboard anyway. one handed i mean one hand on the mouse. That's it. no left hand. what is easiest/fastest.
the whole point was to remove the expand 2nd context. that'll be fastest. right click menu and select. no taking hand off mouse (which is needed for next paste). do it 100 times. you will see.
making the most used functions the closest (least movement/time).

so you are saying the UDC does nothing more than change the short key? I could just customize the keybeard shortcut. why use UDC?