Context Menu

[allen]

It's no secret I prefer keyboard to mouse use -- and there's no immediate way to move to/copy to tabs etc. via the keyboard. Typically I use shift+f10 to access the right click context menu giving me access to those features. The shift+f10 menu and the right click menu are no longer the same in xyplorer, however -- once upon a time they were.

Right Click


Shift+f10


I've tested in several other applications and xy is the only one returning two separate menus for the two functions. The lack of an expandable moveto/copyto menus are the more frustrating part of the shift+f10. Since it can't be done from the edit menu either, this means presently there is no way for me to move files to a tab, favorites, etc. without using the *shudder* mouse :)

[j_c_hallgren]

Funny timing on this topic...just got a promo item in mail that listed various typical shortcuts in Windows, and saw this Shift+F10 listed...It's one of those that I had learned and then forgotten...so when I saw this post, thought I'd see if I found same issue...and did...sort of!

It appears to depend on where the mouse and select is as to whether
the two methods get same menu...a sampling is as follows:

Code: Select all

Same?  Mouse position       Select 
No  -   File name       - File name
Yes -   List area       - None
No  -   Tab hdr         - None
Yes -   Folder in tree  - Folder name
No  -   Tree area       - Folder name
No  -   Catalog area    - none
Yes -   Catalog entry   - none

(I used "code" only to get it to align better)

[allen]

I didn't take it that far as I only use it in the list -- whatever the case, there seem to be some menu inconsistencies. I hope it's an easy fix :)

[Gandolf]

... Since it can't be done from the edit menu either, ...

But it can be done from "File | Move/Copy/Backup to ...".

Regarding the difference with mouse / Context key menus. I've seen it in another application and it depended on where focus was. In the case in question the problem was that you could right click on a blank area with the mouse and get one menu but the context key always worked as if it was on a line of text. I don't know what the reason is in XY's situation.

[j_c_hallgren]

Just did a quick check and context menu key gets same results as Shift+F10, so....now just curious why one would use two keys when one will do the same?

Anyway, I did the additional testing as it may hopefully help Don accurately resolve the issue...

[Gandolf]

... now just curious why one would use two keys when one will do the same?

The context key is not on older keyboards.

[admin]

It's no secret I prefer keyboard to mouse use -- and there's no immediate way to move to/copy to tabs etc. via the keyboard. Typically I use shift+f10 to access the right click context menu giving me access to those features. The shift+f10 menu and the right click menu are no longer the same in xyplorer, however -- once upon a time they were.

True, the bug was born 20061009. Buried.

[allen]

Thanks, Don! Nice and quick!

-- as for why use 2 keys over one, I'm used to shift+f10 and often don't remember there's another key that does the same thing. The other problem with the key for it is it's hidden underneath my palm when I'm typing -- it actually requires quite a bit more movement/inconvenience to get to it than shift+f10. One button, yes -- but a problematic one. :)

[admin]

Thanks, Don! Nice and quick!

-- as for why use 2 keys over one, I'm used to shift+f10 and often don't remember there's another key that does the same thing. The other problem with the key for it is it's hidden underneath my palm when I'm typing -- it actually requires quite a bit more movement/inconvenience to get to it than shift+f10. One button, yes -- but a problematic one.

As you know I will add CKS pretty soon. And I plan to allow as many KS as you like for one function. So "function-to-KS" = "1-to-many" relationship. Why not?! For example, if you like duplicating files you can set CTRL+A, CTRL+B etc. till CTRL+Z all to this one function! (But they won't all be displayed in the menu item )

[allen]

Thanks, Don! Nice and quick!

-- as for why use 2 keys over one, I'm used to shift+f10 and often don't remember there's another key that does the same thing. The other problem with the key for it is it's hidden underneath my palm when I'm typing -- it actually requires quite a bit more movement/inconvenience to get to it than shift+f10. One button, yes -- but a problematic one. :)

As you know I will add CKS pretty soon. And I plan to allow as many KS as you like for one function. So "function-to-KS" = "1-to-many" relationship. Why not?! For example, if you like duplicating files you can set CTRL+A, CTRL+B etc. till CTRL+Z all to this one function! (But they won't all be displayed in the menu item :wink: )

I didn't realize we were getting to it being added "pretty soon" -- I'm all excited now, Don! :) Will there be a way to create one to move/copy to another tab? Currently the to-tab features are limited to context menus, not having an associated widget to launch. If so, those wil be my first custom mappings :)

[admin]

Thanks, Don! Nice and quick!

-- as for why use 2 keys over one, I'm used to shift+f10 and often don't remember there's another key that does the same thing. The other problem with the key for it is it's hidden underneath my palm when I'm typing -- it actually requires quite a bit more movement/inconvenience to get to it than shift+f10. One button, yes -- but a problematic one.

As you know I will add CKS pretty soon. And I plan to allow as many KS as you like for one function. So "function-to-KS" = "1-to-many" relationship. Why not?! For example, if you like duplicating files you can set CTRL+A, CTRL+B etc. till CTRL+Z all to this one function! (But they won't all be displayed in the menu item )

I didn't realize we were getting to it being added "pretty soon" -- I'm all excited now, Don! Will there be a way to create one to move/copy to another tab? Currently the to-tab features are limited to context menus, not having an associated widget to launch. If so, those wil be my first custom mappings

I'm very aware of the promised but still missing to-tab widget. It all will come...