XYplorer Beta Club

autocart wrote: ↑09 Feb 2022 21:03

v22.80.0106 - 2022-02-09 20:11
+ Custom Toolbar Buttons: Now you can make your own text buttons. ...

Nice but the following button is displayed as a long button with a folder icon to the left and then a blank gap. The longer the path, the longer the gap. Same for files.

Ah, shit. I always tested with ":qufind" as icon. Ok, tomorrow...

Feels sooo smooooth. :-)

v22.80.0108 - 2022-02-10 13:20
+ Toolbar | Menu Buttons: Now on-the-fly menu flip is supported. While a menu is
displayed, you can mouse over the next menu button and its menu will automatically
appear. FYI, it took me about 10 years to get this working.

One of the rather rare cases of increasing returns.


Hmmm, on-the-fly flip for toolbar button menus ...

v22.80.0109 - 2022-02-10 21:28
+ Toolbar: Now there are two separate toolbar definitions that you can switch between
using Shift+Wheel over the toolbar. The 2nd one factory-defaults to the menu buttons
({menus_all})

Some small things I quickly noticed (don't have time for deeper tests):
- the 2nd toolbar (better: the other one) had the same individual menu entries as my original former only one
- adding the "All Menus (Group)" applies to both toolbars
- in both bars (only) the FIRST chars of each menu text are rendered with slightly different sizes (with my "weird" combination of font size an tb zoom factor)

I can't understand or reproduce any of this.

I'm completely dumb (*).

My "issue" was my muscle memory. (<CTRL>+<WHEEL> ...)


*: makes me a good candidate for MS.

Hi Don, nice work on the toolbars and shift wheel to cycle them. At some point could you also allow for a keyboard assignment to do the same (i.e., Toolbar to Toolbar2)? Thanks.

Sure thing.
Not sure about the caption. Maybe better "Cycle Toolbar Button Sets" or "Cycle Through Toolbar Button Sets"? Because I also did this:

Sounds good. Any chance you would consider swapping the wheel toolbar cycle to Ctrl-wheel and have the toolbar font change to Shift Wheel? Changing font size should occur a lot less frequently than users desire to cycle the toolbars. Ctrl is much easier on most keyboards than going up to shift. Thanks.

It's fine either way, but I'm not sure you even need to say, "Customize Toolbar - Button Set #2". You could simply say, "Customize Toolbar - Set #2" or "Customize Toolbar - #2".

klownboy wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022 16:34 Sounds good. Any chance you would consider swapping the wheel toolbar cycle to Ctrl-wheel and have the toolbar font change to Shift Wheel? Changing font size should occur a lot less frequently than users desire to cycle the toolbars. Ctrl is much easier on most keyboards than going up to shift. Thanks.

What kind of keyboard do you have? The SHIFT button is right above the CTRL button, that's just some millimeters...

klownboy wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022 16:34 It's fine either way, but I'm not sure you even need to say, "Customize Toolbar - Button Set #2". You could simply say, "Customize Toolbar - Set #2" or "Customize Toolbar - #2".

Since all other settings in "Customize Toolbar / Options..." are shared between all toolbars I think it's fine to call it "button set", or at least "set".

admin wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022 16:45 What kind of keyboard do you have? The SHIFT button is right above the CTRL button, that's just some millimeters...

I was just thinking that the control keys always seem easier to access quickly without looking being at the bottom of the keyboard you're less likely to hit a wrong key.

I suppose I'll put this one viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22666 to bed now.

Speaking of that script. It obviously flags a "save" setting due to the toolbar change (using an external toolbar text file). Is it really necessary for this new toolbar implementation to do that? I can see if one of the toolbars is actual changed but do we really need it for only swapping the toolbars that haven't changed. Again, not a gig deal.

Ctrl+Wheel is the standard for font size changing.

Agreed, I'll take away the dirty flag.

admin wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022 17:11 Ctrl+Wheel is the standard for font size changing.

Yes, that's what I figured.

admin wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022 17:11 Agreed, I'll take away the dirty flag.

OK, great.

Apologize, but back to scrolling. I wonder how many actually use the wheel to scroll the toolbar. I never did 'til today when I had too many buttons (due to new additions). Never need to. Why not consider wheel scroll (no mods) to cycle toolbars and relegate shift wheel to actual scrolling?

klownboy wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022 17:38 Apologize, but back to scrolling. I wonder how many actually use the wheel to scroll the toolbar. I never did 'til today when I had too many buttons (due to new additions). Never need to. Why not consider wheel scroll (no mods) to cycle toolbars and relegate shift wheel to actual scrolling?

I must finally kind of agree. All that klownboy says makes sense. Even the Shift/Ctrl thought up above.
However, 2 actually separate toolbars would still make the most sense.

A scroll wheel goes up and down, so cycling up and down between toolbars does seem more intuitive. +1 I didn't even know the toolbar could scroll left/right until this last update, and I don't think I'll use it since it'll be like re-arranging my toolbar all the time and having to find what I need.

I wonder how this would work though from my laptop, which has a touch pad. I'm assuming the 2 finger operation like in a browser acts as a scroll wheel.

As for the shift or ctrl thing, I like the Mnemonic that is "Shift Up", which makes it easier to remember, but at the same time, ctrl is a standard modifier key. If I was pressing random buttons trying to get something to work, I would reach for ctrl almost immediately.