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admin wrote:That would be a totally different style, and it would have to be connected to the Theme to make sense. Custom breadcrumb colors would then be ignored. Yes, I maybe (some testing would be needed, it's not that easy) can add that in a later version, BC 2.0 or so.

Just my 0.02€
Till now XY interface has been a beautiful example of integration, there are several sections (tree, list, catalog, IP, AB+toolbar) and yet everything looks perfectly as part of a whole.
BC is certainly eyecatching, and useful, but kind of miss its "identity", its position in the rest of the interface. It seems like "added on top", not "emerging between other elements".
I know it's not like adding another tab to the IP, so I think we should think a little from the pov of "form follows function".
Many folks, some of which working for MS, merged AB and BC because AB holds paths and BC is and over-functional representation of a path. Fine.
My design above stems from a similar reasoning, considering that a tab caption says "what and/or where" a tabs contains/point to in a short way, and BC is just an expansion of that piece of info. That's why they share the same back color - they're actually connected. I'll attach a pic.
Imagine the whole interface as drawn on a piece of foldable paper. List and tabbar are exactly in front of you, and when BC is hidden the BC part of the sheet is parallel to the ground. When you decide to show the BC, you unfold the sheet along the red lines. If tabbar stays fixed in space (and it does within XY interface since showing/hiding BC doesn't change the position of the tabbar on screen) then BC appears as an "extension" of the tabbar. And everything makes sense, because when BC is hidden there's a grey line between list headers and tabs - meaning, tabs and List are (kind of) disjointed, but (active) tabs and BC shouldn't be.

admin wrote:That would be a totally different style, and it would have to be connected to the Theme to make sense. Custom breadcrumb colors would then be ignored. Yes, I maybe (some testing would be needed, it's not that easy) can add that in a later version, BC 2.0 or so.

why so different? i'm not talking about colours etc. just lines around BC with only gap on place of current tab.(hope you understand shich i'm yalking about)

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Marco wrote:

admin wrote:That would be a totally different style, and it would have to be connected to the Theme to make sense. Custom breadcrumb colors would then be ignored. Yes, I maybe (some testing would be needed, it's not that easy) can add that in a later version, BC 2.0 or so.

Just my 0.02€
Till now XY interface has been a beautiful example of integration, there are several sections (tree, list, catalog, IP, AB+toolbar) and yet everything looks perfectly as part of a whole.
BC is certainly eyecatching, and useful, but kind of miss its "identity", its position in the rest of the interface. It seems like "added on top", not "emerging between other elements".
I know it's not like adding another tab to the IP, so I think we should think a little from the pov of "form follows function".
Many folks, some of which working for MS, merged AB and BC because AB holds paths and BC is and over-functional representation of a path. Fine.
My design above stems from a similar reasoning, considering that a tab caption says "what and/or where" a tabs contains/point to in a short way, and BC is just an expansion of that piece of info. That's why they share the same back color - they're actually connected. I'll attach a pic.
Imagine the whole interface as drawn on a piece of foldable paper. List and tabbar are exactly in front of you, and when BC is hidden the BC part of the sheet is parallel to the ground. When you decide to show the BC, you unfold the sheet along the red lines. If tabbar stays fixed in space (and it does within XY interface since showing/hiding BC doesn't change the position of the tabbar on screen) then BC appears as an "extension" of the tabbar. And everything makes sense, because when BC is hidden there's a grey line between list headers and tabs - meaning, tabs and List are (kind of) disjointed, but (active) tabs and BC shouldn't be.

That's a possible point of view. As I said, it might be possible in a future version.

Nice drawing!

PS: But I still have no problems at all with the current design. It's 100% kanzen and beauty, but I have no time to provide drawings to prove it.

Don,would these two be possible

Drop files/folders on components of BC Bar to copy/move files to that folder component (like explorer)

Clickable breadcrumb icon (unlike Explorer which just selects the whole path)

;BreadCrumb Bars Icon Tweak
BCBarIconLC=
BCBarIconRC=

Which I would straight away point to Add Tags and Add Labels or some scripts.

(Thinking about) Drop is planned for later.

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I'm hoping that once the AB and BC are merged, a couple context menu items could be added:

Paste & Go
Paste & Search

Nighted wrote:I'm hoping that once the AB and BC are merged, a couple context menu items could be added:

Paste & Go
Paste & Search

Paste & Go is a cool idea, but what is Paste & Search?

grindax wrote:

grindax wrote:

admin wrote:

grindax wrote:1. When using the breadcrumbs to go forward one step or backwards one step, "Select last used subfolder" is not working. Currently, selections are lost.

Yes, but is this desirable?

Yes, I think so. Also, remember that the tooltip for "Select last used subfolder" explicitly says this should work for breadcrumbs too.

When navigating just one step using the breadcrumbs, I think of that exactly like going back or forward.

This can be argued either way and there's no right answer. But currently there is an inconsistency between BC bar and AB menu. Navigating by breadcrumb using the AB menu selects the last used subfolder. Navigating by breadcrumb using the BC bar does not. Whichever way you decide, I think they should work the same.

OK, agreed. I wil remove it from both, because the BC itself contains the information, no need to double it.

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grindax wrote:

admin wrote:OK, agreed. I wil remove it from both, because the BC itself contains the information, no need to double it.

Cool. Remember to update the help and the tooltip which both currently mention that it works for breadcrumbs.

Just done.

admin wrote:

Nighted wrote:I'm hoping that once the AB and BC are merged, a couple context menu items could be added:

Paste & Go
Paste & Search

Paste & Go is a cool idea, but what is Paste & Search?

Paste & Search is basically the same thing but with the ? character injected automatically.

But search what? * ?