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Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 07:58
by admin
Are you using 125% screen resolution?

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 10:26
by sfwood
admin wrote:Are you using 125% screen resolution?
That's it. The icons do look a bit better (and all about same size at "Smaller - 100%", so I guess that's my and my old eye's problem.

OTOH, here is an image of some of the existing icons with TPT on but the TPT outline around the icons removed. I think this looks better and less distracting (at both 100% and 125%).
tree-path.png
You did have the sense not to:
wavy.png
:shock: so that's good :wink: Sheesh--what were they smoking?

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 10:57
by admin
Well, not bad. A lighter snake style... I might check that later...

Smoke: No comment. :)

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 12:48
by bdeshi
Well, I for one, don't like that TPT mockup, at all.
The line isn't continuous, but (I think) the main idea of TPT is to trace up to root with least attention.
My two cents.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 16:25
by Shadow
Jeff Bellune wrote:So how do I get the new look? I've installed 14.40.004 and I don't get the new flat look, I still have control borders and my tree expansion icons are still + signs instead of triangles.

Thanks,
Jeff

EDIT: I assumed that because the new flat look was the "default UI in Windows 8" that the style would appear automatically. Apparently not. It seems I have to go in to the Configuration settings and create it piece by piece. Further, it seems the only way to get the triangles is to tweak the .ini file. Isn't there a "big button" way to save or apply a theme that accounts for all the bits and pieces?
Ctrl Right-Click on a Plus or Minus sign brings up a selection menu.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 21:27
by Enternal
How about the TPT outline does not g around the icons like sfwood suggested BUT the very last icon that it goes around (also indicating the current location), will have the TPT outlining the icon? That way, it's not distracting yet at the same time, it's very easy to spot where you are in the tree by just finding the icon that has the TPT outline.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 21:46
by admin
Enternal wrote:How about the TPT outline does not g around the icons like sfwood suggested BUT the very last icon that it goes around (also indicating the current location), will have the TPT outlining the icon? That way, it's not distracting yet at the same time, it's very easy to spot where you are in the tree by just finding the icon that has the TPT outline.
Excactly my vision. I will try that as an optional alternative tomorrow...

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 21:49
by bdeshi
Right, that's also a nice alternative. It just wouldn't feel right to me if the tracing line breaks up completely anywhere.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 05:31
by sfwood
Been staring at this too much.. Occurs to me to wonder, why is TPT drawn as it is rather than follow the logic of the dotted black connector lines? i.e. (and ignoring absence of icon highlights) why drawn as on left and not as on right. Just for visual clarity, I'm guessing? Mostly curious.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 05:40
by sfwood
And, for more argument fun ;-), here is TPT still w/ no icons but 5px wide not 3px. Threw in a couple of terminators as has been mentioned.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 09:02
by admin
sfwood wrote:Been staring at this too much.. Occurs to me to wonder, why is TPT drawn as it is rather than follow the logic of the dotted black connector lines? i.e. (and ignoring absence of icon highlights) why drawn as on left and not as on right. Just for visual clarity, I'm guessing? Mostly curious.
Because it should pass only nodes that are part of the path, not any siblings.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 10:29
by admin
OK, I made a version of TPT where only the head of the snake is drawn as a big square. Looks okay. Might be even good. Certainly lighter on the eye.

Now, how should I call this (or the opposite of it) in configuration? "Mark components"?

BTW, I will rename "Wide" to "Wide trace" (fixed a bug there too today).

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 11:28
by bdeshi
"Mark nodes" or "Outline TPT Nodes"? (If I got the concept right)

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 13:16
by Stef123
Snake slick/slim/smooth vs square
Snake wind/sidestep vs bite/snap

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 11 Sep 2014 13:41
by bdeshi
"Snake slick/slim/smooth vs square
Snake wind/sidestep vs bite/snap
"
...makes me think you want actual snakes with every XY... :mrgreen:
Sorry! :P