Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 18 Oct 2013 20:07
So have yet to run last beta but reading change log, how do we without a wheel change font size? Presuming there is a way via touchpad that isn't obvious from that desc...
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Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 18 Oct 2013 20:54
You can edit CrumbFontMilliSize in the XY INI.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 18 Oct 2013 23:39
First of all, I am glad they are finally here.
Second of all, there are a few adjustments to the GUI I would like to see:
1) Where the subfolders list is quite long -- I have places where there are several dozen subfolders, but keen music lovers will probably have me for breakfast -- I would like to have it confined to the current list pane. As it stands, it spreads itself beyond the application margins, potentially overlapping a taskbar or a desktop item.
2) For same long lists as in 1), it should be possible to scroll through them up and down using the mouse wheel as opposed to click the arrows at its top and bottom.
3) Stemming from 2), if I can scroll through the list, there is no need for it to be longer than half the pane height because that would negate scrolling benefits through more pointer movements.
Second of all, there are a few adjustments to the GUI I would like to see:
1) Where the subfolders list is quite long -- I have places where there are several dozen subfolders, but keen music lovers will probably have me for breakfast -- I would like to have it confined to the current list pane. As it stands, it spreads itself beyond the application margins, potentially overlapping a taskbar or a desktop item.
2) For same long lists as in 1), it should be possible to scroll through them up and down using the mouse wheel as opposed to click the arrows at its top and bottom.
3) Stemming from 2), if I can scroll through the list, there is no need for it to be longer than half the pane height because that would negate scrolling benefits through more pointer movements.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 04:02
Nope...sorry! The same beta that added the wheel removed the tweak...Nighted wrote:You can edit CrumbFontMilliSize in the XY INI.
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v13.10.0106 - 2013-10-18 18:03
+ Breadcrumbs: Now you can modify the font size of the Breadcrumbs
on-the-fly by Ctrl+Wheel over any of the Breadcrumbs. Cool!
- Tweak CrumbMiniFontMilliSize removed.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 04:55
I cannot check and verify right now, but note the difference CrumbFontMilliSize not CrumbMiniFontMilliSize. In any case there has to be some key that stores the value.j_c_hallgren wrote:Nope...sorry! The same beta that added the wheel removed the tweak...Nighted wrote:You can edit CrumbFontMilliSize in the XY INI.Code: Select all
v13.10.0106 - 2013-10-18 18:03 + Breadcrumbs: Now you can modify the font size of the Breadcrumbs on-the-fly by Ctrl+Wheel over any of the Breadcrumbs. Cool! - Tweak CrumbMiniFontMilliSize removed.
How do you scroll with your trackpad? I'd assume if you're using a trackpad gesture or have it configured such that the edge is used for scrolling that it would send the same events as a mouse wheel, and thus the shortcut would still work.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 06:49
TheQwerty wrote:I cannot check and verify right now, but note the difference CrumbFontMilliSize not CrumbMiniFontMilliSize. In any case there has to be some key that stores the value.
I'll have to blame my eyesight for that one -- didn't notice the diff in the middle! Oops!With my older laptop and Synaptics touchpad, I used the edge scolling only rarely and with this laptop and Alps touchpad (which has less setup options available), I can't recall last time I used edge scroll so never thought about that option -- and I use the Cntl to get the flashing rings to locate cursor easier so didn't realize that it could still be used with edge -- I tried it and it seems to work but the ability to have precise control as one would have with a real wheel isn't as good so don't foresee using this IF a GUI option setting or similar is available where I can type/click desired value directly...but thanks for the info anyway!How do you scroll with your trackpad? I'd assume if you're using a trackpad gesture or have it configured such that the edge is used for scrolling that it would send the same events as a mouse wheel, and thus the shortcut would still work.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 15:50
Oh indeed! I'm firmly of the belief that EVERY command and option that is available behind a toolbar button or shortcut should be available as a command ID - thus ensuring they are all also available via script and keyboard shortcuts.j_c_hallgren wrote:I tried it and it seems to work but the ability to have precise control as one would have with a real wheel isn't as good so don't foresee using this IF a GUI option setting or similar is available where I can type/click desired value directly...but thanks for the info anyway!
If not elevated to the GUI then in the very least Increase/Decrease Breadcrumb Font Size should be a command IDs under Miscellaneous by the time the next official release rolls out.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 18:39
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Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:02
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+ Breadcrumbs: Finally solved the problem of too many subfolders
leading to oversized menus. After plan A to E failed I opted to
write a new control class from scratch, argh. But hey, there will
be use for this in many other places later.
It *almost* works like a scrollable menu, with a couple of subtle
differences, but nothing of any gravity IMO. Tested for XP (non-
classic) only at the moment.
As a first feedback for Windows 8.1: there's no support for mouse wheel scrolling (though, I don't know wether it is already supported).
Out of curiosity: could the single path components be turned into drop targets/sources with straightforward effort?
Cheers,
Filehero
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:05
Too bad, the wheel works fine here. Can you wheel the AB dropdown?
Drop: I had planned that originally but now I doubt the use of it. How often do you drop into the current path? Hm.
Drop: I had planned that originally but now I doubt the use of it. How often do you drop into the current path? Hm.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:09
Wheel scrolling doesn't work in Windows 7 here either 
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:10
Win7 x64: The BC folder menu doesn't work at all. For me, the menu doesn't appear, just a flash then nothing.
EDIT: Ah, if I untick "Show Downward Path", I have the folder menu.
EDIT2: And only the last triangle works.
EDIT: Ah, if I untick "Show Downward Path", I have the folder menu.
EDIT2: And only the last triangle works.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:15
No - that's what I was trying to indicate.admin wrote:Can you wheel the AB dropdown?
Edit: <ctrl>+<mousewheel> works for adjusting the BC font size.
Rather never. It was more about the basic zen thingie "if you can drop onto tabs and buttons you can drop onto crumbs as well, of course!".admin wrote:Drop: I had planned that originally but now I doubt the use of it. How often do you drop into the current path?
But there's an formal exit: if slash-mode is used, dropping would be irritating, because there's also no dropping in the AB.
Yeah, I saved you some work!
Cheers,
Filehero
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:19
XP SP3 Classic Theme:
No mouse wheel scrolling. Also no mouse wheel scrolling in the AB (am not using it anyway).
Apart from that looks nice.
EDIT: Regarding LittleBiG's Edit 2: It seems that all triangles are working at my place.
No mouse wheel scrolling. Also no mouse wheel scrolling in the AB (am not using it anyway).
Apart from that looks nice.
EDIT: Regarding LittleBiG's Edit 2: It seems that all triangles are working at my place.
Re: Clickable breadcrumbs.
Posted: 19 Oct 2013 19:32
No wheel scrolling on 7 either.
Btw, when you sayare you talking about this, for example? If so, I think a good compromise to mantain the most uniform interface possible across different menus could be loading your custom control on every node except root, I don't think someone can have all the 26 possible drive letters in use.
Btw, when you say
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It *almost* works like a scrollable menu, with a couple of subtle
differences,...