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Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 12:28
by MountainMan10
I have two computers, a desktop and a notebook. Both are setup as exactly the same as humanly possible. On my desk computer XYplorer displays My documents correctly on D:. On my notebook it does not.
I have multiple boots on my desktop. All setup the same but different OS. XYplorer works on it in Vista and Windows 7.
I have loaded Vista Home Premimum SP1, Vista Ultimate SP1 and Vista Business on my notebook. In all three cases XYplorer will not show My Documents.
I tried a fresh copy of XYplorer on a usb stick. No difference.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 15:28
by buzzword
In my case on Vista x64 my Desktop is in the default location, but I keep my Documents folder is on a separate drive.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 16:07
by serendipity
buzzword wrote:
serendipity wrote: So its not XY's fault in this case.
Not entirely true, there are system variables (like %desktop% etc.) that tell programs where these folders reside, precisely so that they don't have to be in the same specific locations on every computer, and also because different version of Windows put these folders in different default locations.
:oops: , sorry i wasn't aware of that. I just read this to enlighten myself. If its viewed alright from explorer but XY shows it wrong then it could be a bug. We have to wait for Admin's comment, but be aware that bugs and wishes will not be fixed as easily as before as he is busy with Dual pane development.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 27 Mar 2009 16:26
by serendipity
Well, I tested this on my Vista SP1 (32 bit).
Using the app TweakVI, I changed the "My Documents" from root (C:) to another location E: and after restarting XY all is fine, i.e. in the tree i can navigate correctly to that folder and its subfolders are not from XY.
So atleast it cannot be XY because it works for me.
It could be that the changes you are making are not applied to the registry properly, if not XY would recognize it properly.
I am using v7.90.0126.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 04 Apr 2009 14:40
by MountainMan10
For me it works on one of my computers but not the other. They are set up the same. Obviously XYplorer supports the documents folder being moved. What I was hoping for from this forum was what XYplorer looks at to determine the location. There must be an incorrect setting somewhere on my computer and I am trying to determine what it is. At first I thought it might be SP1 because I had it on one but not the other. But I loaded Vista w/o the service pack on my notebook and the documents folder didn't display as soon as I moved it.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 04 Apr 2009 23:36
by MountainMan10
I have some more interesting information. I have multiple partitions. C:, D:, E:, F: and G:.
If I put My Documents on C, E, F or G it and the Desktop display correctly in XYplorer. If I put My Documents on D: they do not display in XYplorer. All the partitions are NTFS. All but C: are logical drives. I can find nothing different about D: other than it is the first logical drive in the extended partition.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 05 Apr 2009 00:50
by buzzword
MountainMan10 wrote:I have some more interesting information. I have multiple partitions. C:, D:, E:, F: and G:.
If I put My Documents on C, E, F or G it and the Desktop display correctly in XYplorer. If I put My Documents on D: they do not display in XYplorer. All the partitions are NTFS. All but C: are logical drives. I can find nothing different about D: other than it is the first logical drive in the extended partition.

I think you're onto something, in my case my Documents folder is on L:, prior to that it was on F: and I had no problem.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 05 Apr 2009 01:05
by MountainMan10
Funny thing is, on the computer where it works, My Documents is also on D:. There is something about this particular partition, but I can't figure out what.

It keeps getting better. If I move it to D:\Documents, XYplorer is happy. But it doesn't like "D:\My Documents".

I moved My Documents to "D:\Documents" and created a junction "D:\My Documents" with mklink /J and now XYplorer is happy, and so is everything that expects "D:\My Documents". I also used mklink /J to recreate the My Documents junction under C:\Users\myname.

Update: after a reboot XYplorer is once again not showing my documents. Still searching for a fix.

Now when I type in %personal% in the address bar the XYplorer directory is displayed. It was showing my documents before.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 05 Apr 2009 11:28
by MountainMan10
I have come up with a workaround.

I moved the Documents back to the default location. Then I deleted the C:\Users\...\Documents folder and replaced it with a Junction (mklink /j) that points to D:\My Documents. Now Windows is happy and XYplorer is happy. %desktop%, %desktopreal%, %personal% and %personalreal% all work. The icons are correct for the true documents folder, D:\My Documents, in both XYplorer and Windows Explorer.

Vista wouldn't let me create the Junction first. It won't let you set the location of Documents to a Junction. But it is perfectly happy if you do it after the fact.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 27 Apr 2009 08:32
by admin
This is all weird. I'm retrieving the locations of the special folders at XYplorer startup and whenever you use "rebuild tree". There's nothing exotic about the functions I use. It's simply THE standard way to do this. No idea why it would fail with certain locations on drive D: on a certain computer.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 09 May 2009 01:29
by MountainMan10
I figured as much. It is a strange one. I recently installed Windows 7 and XYplorer finds my documents just fine. Only an issue in Vista.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 09 May 2009 07:53
by buzzword
MountainMan10 wrote:I figured as much. It is a strange one. I recently installed Windows 7 and XYplorer finds my documents just fine. Only an issue in Vista.
Same here, I just installed Windows 7 RC and XYplorer works fine. GO figure.

Re: Strange issue on Vista, no computer, desktop availabe

Posted: 09 May 2009 09:53
by admin
Well, good to hear! :D