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Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 29 Aug 2014 00:25
by sfwood
The triangles are brilliant. Don't know how they're drawn or if it would be doable, but an idea for mini-tree, using open/white triangles, follows. Actually, I think this too subtle (as the original blue "+" method seems as well), but may spark an idea. Also, what about separately definable BG color for the tree panel when in mini-tree? [Edit--Just noticed Win 7 Explorer uses open (white) triangles--for showing closed branches; opposite of logical--a dark triangle should mean closed/full (of items), a white triangle should mean just a container/the stuff is expanded, as the new XY squares do]
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Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 29 Aug 2014 09:16
by admin
I had tried white triangles before but the lines looked too thin to me. It would be visible in your screenshot if you posted a PNG instead of a JPG I think.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 02 Sep 2014 17:40
by TheQwerty
A bit off-topic: I just noticed that with Narrow Tree enabled the Computer node gets shifted right making the expansion icon rather ugly:
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Not sure there's really much you can do since there's so many factors at play. And also right-clicking the expansion icon of Computer shows the list of drives with exclamation point icons.

Now I'm having a hard time finding the right balance between narrow tree, TreeNodeIndent, and TreePaddingLeft. :?


More on-topic: I think I down-right hate the look of corner, and while I'm liking the triangles, I find the square and diamond options rather interesting.

Decisions, decisions...

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 02 Sep 2014 17:51
by admin
... so many factors at play... yes, you got it.

But I will fix the PC's tree node crumb menu...

I also like square and diamond. :)

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 07 Sep 2014 12:45
by Filehero
Hi,
grindax wrote:Triangles being added to the Tree and removed from the Catalog?

Presumably this change:

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v14.40.0003 - 2014-08-27 21:46
*Catalog: Minor graphical change.
admin wrote:Yes, the latter.
Is that change supposed to look like that (14.40.0304, no icon tweak applied yet)?
rectangle_catalog.png
Thanks,
Filehero

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 07 Sep 2014 15:02
by admin
Yep.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 09 Sep 2014 13:47
by admin
BTW, I finally seem to have settled for "Diamond".

What's your choice, oh XY-crowd?

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 09 Sep 2014 14:08
by Filehero
admin wrote:What's your choice, oh XY-crowd?
Flat PlusMinus or triangles, whereas their grey fill somwehat collides with my blue TPT color. The closed "diamonds" are too grey and bulky/massive in appearance.


Filehero

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 09 Sep 2014 14:19
by admin
Filehero wrote:The closed "diamonds" are too grey and bulky/massive in appearance.
Yes, there is a bit of truth in this.

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 09 Sep 2014 18:07
by Marco
I'm still sticking to the old-school PlusMinus.
The triangles look nice only when TPT is disabled imo, because the downward triangle inside a TPT node makes the result look "unbalanced".

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 09 Sep 2014 19:06
by bdeshi
I actually like the flat white normal plusminus nodes. Is there any chance of having those in minitree?

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 09 Sep 2014 23:39
by sfwood
Not to be pointlessly critical, but none of the icons are great.

-Plus minus and plus minus flat are huge (using Win 7 125% resolution), distracting and, in MT, dark.
-Triangle improves but too dark in both reg and M tree, and misses opportunity to use color for feedback.
-Square, corner, and diamond all provide good feedback, are the best size, and work best w/ TPT highlight box. However, still dark.

The hard-wired blue icon color in MT is distracting for all the icons.

None of the icons are helped by the TPT icon highlight box, but triangle looks esp. bad against the highlight. All the icons would look better if TPT just highlighted the path and not the icon.

Myself, still deciding between triangle (cleanest exc. for TPT highlight) and diamond (reads best of the right size 3).

All solved by user-customizable icons?.. ;-)

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 06:27
by Filehero
sfwood wrote: -Plus minus and plus minus flat are huge, distracting and, in MT, dark.

-Square, corner, and diamond all provide good feedback, are the best size, ...
To my knowledge all squarish icons have the same dimensions.

Cheers,
Filehero

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 07:35
by admin
Always open for mock-ups...

Re: TreeExpansionIcon

Posted: 10 Sep 2014 07:48
by sfwood
Filehero wrote:..To my knowledge all squarish icons have the same dimensions.
Really? I'm seeing something weird, then (Win 7, normal fonts, XY fonts Segoe UI 10.2 [main] & Arial 9 [buttons/labels]):
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Close, yes, but definitely variation; maybe part visual, part real, but..