Clickable breadcrumbs.

[j_c_hallgren]

So have yet to run last beta but reading change log, how do we without a wheel change font size? Presuming there is a way via touchpad that isn't obvious from that desc...

[Nighted]

You can edit CrumbFontMilliSize in the XY INI.

[zer0]

First of all, I am glad they are finally here.

Second of all, there are a few adjustments to the GUI I would like to see:

1) Where the subfolders list is quite long -- I have places where there are several dozen subfolders, but keen music lovers will probably have me for breakfast -- I would like to have it confined to the current list pane. As it stands, it spreads itself beyond the application margins, potentially overlapping a taskbar or a desktop item.

2) For same long lists as in 1), it should be possible to scroll through them up and down using the mouse wheel as opposed to click the arrows at its top and bottom.

3) Stemming from 2), if I can scroll through the list, there is no need for it to be longer than half the pane height because that would negate scrolling benefits through more pointer movements.

[j_c_hallgren]

You can edit CrumbFontMilliSize in the XY INI.

Nope...sorry! The same beta that added the wheel removed the tweak...

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v13.10.0106 - 2013-10-18 18:03
    + Breadcrumbs: Now you can modify the font size of the Breadcrumbs 
      on-the-fly by Ctrl+Wheel over any of the Breadcrumbs. Cool!
    - Tweak CrumbMiniFontMilliSize removed.

[TheQwerty]

You can edit CrumbFontMilliSize in the XY INI.

Nope...sorry! The same beta that added the wheel removed the tweak...

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v13.10.0106 - 2013-10-18 18:03
    + Breadcrumbs: Now you can modify the font size of the Breadcrumbs 
      on-the-fly by Ctrl+Wheel over any of the Breadcrumbs. Cool!
    - Tweak CrumbMiniFontMilliSize removed.

I cannot check and verify right now, but note the difference CrumbFontMilliSize not CrumbMiniFontMilliSize. In any case there has to be some key that stores the value.

How do you scroll with your trackpad? I'd assume if you're using a trackpad gesture or have it configured such that the edge is used for scrolling that it would send the same events as a mouse wheel, and thus the shortcut would still work.

[j_c_hallgren]

I cannot check and verify right now, but note the difference CrumbFontMilliSize not CrumbMiniFontMilliSize. In any case there has to be some key that stores the value.

I'll have to blame my eyesight for that one -- didn't notice the diff in the middle! Oops!

How do you scroll with your trackpad? I'd assume if you're using a trackpad gesture or have it configured such that the edge is used for scrolling that it would send the same events as a mouse wheel, and thus the shortcut would still work.

With my older laptop and Synaptics touchpad, I used the edge scolling only rarely and with this laptop and Alps touchpad (which has less setup options available), I can't recall last time I used edge scroll so never thought about that option -- and I use the Cntl to get the flashing rings to locate cursor easier so didn't realize that it could still be used with edge -- I tried it and it seems to work but the ability to have precise control as one would have with a real wheel isn't as good so don't foresee using this IF a GUI option setting or similar is available where I can type/click desired value directly...but thanks for the info anyway!

[TheQwerty]

I tried it and it seems to work but the ability to have precise control as one would have with a real wheel isn't as good so don't foresee using this IF a GUI option setting or similar is available where I can type/click desired value directly...but thanks for the info anyway!

Oh indeed! I'm firmly of the belief that EVERY command and option that is available behind a toolbar button or shortcut should be available as a command ID - thus ensuring they are all also available via script and keyboard shortcuts.

If not elevated to the GUI then in the very least Increase/Decrease Breadcrumb Font Size should be a command IDs under Miscellaneous by the time the next official release rolls out.

[grindax]

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[Filehero]

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    + Breadcrumbs: Finally solved the problem of too many subfolders
      leading to oversized menus. After plan A to E failed I opted to
      write a new control class from scratch, argh. But hey, there will
      be use for this in many other places later.
      It *almost* works like a scrollable menu, with a couple of subtle
      differences, but nothing of any gravity IMO. Tested for XP (non-
      classic) only at the moment.

Don, I knew you would do your own new control if anything else doesn't help it. Sometimes I think you would even consider writing your own Windows ....



As a first feedback for Windows 8.1: there's no support for mouse wheel scrolling (though, I don't know wether it is already supported).

Out of curiosity: could the single path components be turned into drop targets/sources with straightforward effort?


Cheers,
Filehero

[admin]

Too bad, the wheel works fine here. Can you wheel the AB dropdown?

Drop: I had planned that originally but now I doubt the use of it. How often do you drop into the current path? Hm.

[zer0]

Wheel scrolling doesn't work in Windows 7 here either

[LittleBiG]

Win7 x64: The BC folder menu doesn't work at all. For me, the menu doesn't appear, just a flash then nothing.

EDIT: Ah, if I untick "Show Downward Path", I have the folder menu.

EDIT2: And only the last triangle works.

[Filehero]

Can you wheel the AB dropdown?

No - that's what I was trying to indicate.
Edit: <ctrl>+<mousewheel> works for adjusting the BC font size.

Drop: I had planned that originally but now I doubt the use of it. How often do you drop into the current path?

Rather never. It was more about the basic zen thingie "if you can drop onto tabs and buttons you can drop onto crumbs as well, of course!".

But there's an formal exit: if slash-mode is used, dropping would be irritating, because there's also no dropping in the AB.
Yeah, I saved you some work!


Cheers,
Filehero

[Borut]

XP SP3 Classic Theme:

No mouse wheel scrolling. Also no mouse wheel scrolling in the AB (am not using it anyway).

Apart from that looks nice.

EDIT: Regarding LittleBiG's Edit 2: It seems that all triangles are working at my place.

[Marco]

No wheel scrolling on 7 either.

Btw, when you say

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      It *almost* works like a scrollable menu, with a couple of subtle
      differences,...

are you talking about this, for example? If so, I think a good compromise to mantain the most uniform interface possible across different menus could be loading your custom control on every node except root, I don't think someone can have all the 26 possible drive letters in use.