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admin wrote:This marking shall be retained between sessions?
I suppose so, just like you'd expect it to work with the color-filter. btw is it possible to update XYplorer to an edited configuration.ini without restarting it?
admin wrote:No: right-click menu "open".
This loses the selection.

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spunch wrote:btw is it possible to update XYplorer to an edited configuration.ini without restarting it?
File > Configuration File > Load Configuration
Ah! My bad, I was wrong :(
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spunch wrote:
admin wrote:This marking shall be retained between sessions?
I suppose so, just like you'd expect it to work with the color-filter. btw is it possible to update XYplorer to an edited configuration.ini without restarting it?
admin wrote:No: right-click menu "open".
This loses the selection.
oops, yes.

Update XYplorer to an edited configuration.ini without restarting it: no. Could add a "Reload Configuration" command, but it would also need to shut (without saving -- that's the difference to "Load Configuration") and reopen the app.

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Never mind. I thought maybe I could mimic the marking functionality in the way you suggested using color filters and a bit of scripting, but restarting XYplorer for every marked file is defeating the point.

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spunch wrote:Never mind. I thought maybe I could mimic the marking functionality in the way you suggested using color filters and a bit of scripting, but restarting XYplorer for every marked file is defeating the point.
( :idea: ) Hmm, I could add Color Filters to the list management, of course. Then with Editor Mode... but that's not on top of my list.

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Hi Don,

i remember that you plan to have comments sometime soon. why not give us a quick way to add comment (some predefaulted comments like burn, edit, thrash etc etc) and one can select by comment. I guess comments will be searchable.

To me adding comments is like marking something for future use. You can have two birds (comment and marking) in one shot now. or??

Update: here is my previous wish about color/marking.

2nd update: Would be nice if there is a right-click context menu to add comments to the selected items.

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spunch wrote:Anyway, normal selection is not something most people are comfortable with, I think. What if you select many things and suddenly you see a file you would like to open? You're out of options and you're selection is lost.
Nope: hold Ctrl and use Up/Down arrow to move the focused row around, when on the file you wanna open: Ctrl+Enter
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Jacky, that's another of those things that isn't quite as obvious from reading the Help file but was made much clearer via reading the wiki! :)
And in doing so, found that I had not set Focused Row color...which caused me to find something that I'll post as possible bug separately.
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jacky wrote:Nope: hold Ctrl and use Up/Down arrow to move the focused row around, when on the file you wanna open: Ctrl+Enter
Yes, XY is that cool! ;)
This was just one scenario, what happens if you suddenly need to backtrack a few folders, or get into another folder? These things are done so commonly that's where file-browsers got their name from.

Anyway, marking is already half way available in XYplorer. Color-filters are pretty much markings, the only thing that's missing is the ease of use. Instead of going to the configuration window > colors and indicating the file you want marked/unmarked, you press the spacebar. Also it needs a function to select all color-filtered.

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surrender wrote:Hi Don,

i remember that you plan to have comments sometime soon. why not give us a quick way to add comment (some predefaulted comments like burn, edit, thrash etc etc) and one can select by comment. I guess comments will be searchable. ... (etc. ... dream goes on like this) :wink: .
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spunch wrote:Anyway, marking is already half way available in XYplorer. Color-filters are pretty much markings, the only thing that's missing is the ease of use. Instead of going to the configuration window > colors and indicating the file you want marked/unmarked, you press the spacebar. Also it needs a function to select all color-filtered.
Okay, I generally like the idea. However, I still see some stuff:
(1) Spacebar is already used: does select the focused file and unselect all other (this is a standard and should not be changed). So it should be another key.
(2) The list of marked items will quickly become very large, and then slow down browsing notably. This does not happen with Color Filters because they are not so many typically. Add 200 CFs and you'll see what I mean.

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admin wrote:Update XYplorer to an edited configuration.ini without restarting it: no. Could add a "Reload Configuration" command, but it would also need to shut (without saving -- that's the difference to "Load Configuration") and reopen the app.
Oops, just for the record: this is already implemented: menu File | Restart without Saving will of course reload your manually edited INI file. It is exactly a "Reload Configuration".

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admin wrote:(1) Spacebar is already used: does select the focused file and unselect all other (this is a standard and should not be changed). So it should be another key.
What about the tilde key maybe? It's a single keypress to mark/unmark and it's not some obscure hotkey and not too many files start with tilde.
admin wrote:(2) The list of marked items will quickly become very large, and then slow down browsing notably. This does not happen with Color Filters because they are not so many typically. Add 200 CFs and you'll see what I mean.
I added around 1500 files from the system32 directory to the color-filter and I couldn't notice any loss of performance, perhaps the algorithm is more efficient than you give it credit. I'm running on a P4 1.6GHz with 256mb of memory, the only difference I noticed was XYplorer consumed a bit more memory than before, private bytes grew from 7mb to 9mb.

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admin wrote:
surrender wrote:Hi Don,

i remember that you plan to have comments sometime soon. why not give us a quick way to add comment (some predefaulted comments like burn, edit, thrash etc etc) and one can select by comment. I guess comments will be searchable. ... (etc. ... dream goes on like this) :wink: .
:P
Yeah, I like dreaming. But maybe comments and marking shud be dealt independently. I like the idea of marking though, it reminds me of the 'bold' feature in word, easy to spot. Ctrl+B would be good, but its taken. hmmmm ... Happy key hunting Don!

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spunch wrote:I added around 1500 files from the system32 directory to the color-filter and I couldn't notice any loss of performance, perhaps the algorithm is more efficient than you give it credit.
Wow! Thanks for checking this out.

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