Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Tom
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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

Post by Tom »

Thanks, Don!

What is this:

SHChangeNotify = Yes

I can't find it in the config file.

In testing, I have found that not all folders show the delay in new subfolder creation, but all show the rename delay. Does that tell you anything? Any other ideas?

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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admin wrote:hold CTRL and click Help | Various Information, here you find some places to look at.
@Don: I keep forgetting this hidden gem myself. This is useful, could it be made visible in the menu? Like Optimization tips or something?

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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@Don: I keep forgetting this hidden gem myself. This is useful, could it be made visible in the menu? Like Optimization tips or something?
Note to others who try this - You must hold CTRL down while clicking on Help AND continue holding CTRL down when selecting Various Information.

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Tom wrote:Running Avast Pro V7.0.1466
Not running Security Essentials.
I run a MalwareBytes on-demand scan occasionally.
This started AFTER one of the last 3 or 4 XY updates.
In case you've not seen the other similar thread that has been resolved (it was due to Windows Defender):
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 024#p77024
Still spending WAY TOO much time here! But it's such a pleasure helping XY be a treasure!
(XP on laptop with touchpad and thus NO mouse!) Using latest beta vers when possible.

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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serendipity wrote:
admin wrote:hold CTRL and click Help | Various Information, here you find some places to look at.
@Don: I keep forgetting this hidden gem myself. This is useful, could it be made visible in the menu? Like Optimization tips or something?
It's really just for debugging.

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Tom
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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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In case you've not seen the other similar thread that has been resolved (it was due to Windows Defender):
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 024#p77024
Thank you, JC, for the link!

I already have Real-time protection off, automatic scanning off, C:\Program Files (x86)\XYplorer in the "do not scan there files or locations" section.

I tried a clean install of XY and that worked fine. I loaded my config file into the clean install and none of my tabs showed up. Aren't they stored with the config file?


What is this:

SHChangeNotify = Yes

I can't find it in the config file.

Thanks!!

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Tom wrote:I already have Real-time protection off, automatic scanning off, C:\Program Files (x86)\XYplorer in the "do not scan there files or locations" section.
That may explain it: you need to exclude the XYplorer.exe and XYcopy.exe-processes rather than the location where they're stored.
Tom wrote:I tried a clean install of XY and that worked fine. I loaded my config file into the clean install and none of my tabs showed up. Aren't they stored with the config file?
Tabs are stored in the Panes-subfolder of the Application Data Folder.
Tom wrote:What is this:

SHChangeNotify = Yes

I can't find it in the config file.
I can only find this reference:

Code: Select all

v4.40.0000 - 2005-11-26 19:15
    + Configuration: redesigned the "Auto-refresh on file system changes" 
      section. Now you can specify in a very detailed way what you want 
      to be watched and where.
      For your interest as a programmer:
      - "Watch current path and subtree on: Local drives/Network drives" 
        uses the FindFirstChangeNotification API.
      - "Watch non-current locations: Folders/Removable drives" uses the 
        SHChangeNotify API.
      Tip: if you are using the network a lot you might encounter 
      dramatic speed differences related to these settings.
        Note that auto-refresh concerns exclusively changes triggered 
      from other processes. If you disable it completely, XYplorer 
      should still correctly update the display with regard to its own 
      file operations. I say should... some things might have slipt 
      through...

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Tom wrote:What is this:

SHChangeNotify = Yes

I can't find it in the config file.
Refers to the tweak DisableSHChangeNotifyRegister.

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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admin wrote:
Tom wrote:What is this:

SHChangeNotify = Yes

I can't find it in the config file.
Refers to the tweak DisableSHChangeNotifyRegister.
Thanks, Don!

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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nas8e9 wrote:That may explain it: you need to exclude the XYplorer.exe and XYcopy.exe-processes rather than the location where they're stored.
I have excluded those two files, as well. The explanation under the real-time protection exclusion indicated that all files and folders under the selected directory would be excluded.
Tabs are stored in the Panes-subfolder of the Application Data Folder.
What is the proper way to do a clean install and then reload your existing configuration, tabs, etc?

Thanks you for all the suggestions and help!

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Tom wrote:What is the proper way to do a clean install and then reload your existing configuration, tabs, etc?
In case of XY this is a contradiction (because it is not "installed" in the usual sense in registry etc.). Either clean install or previous config. All your config is in the app data folder.

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Don,

I'm trying to track down the delay issue. With a clean install, I have no delay. When I add in my tabs, configs, catalogs, etc, I have the delay.

I've been thru the debug thing (CTRL Help/Various Information) to no avail.

Do you have any other suggestions?

Thank you !!

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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Please post here what you get when you do CTRL Help/Various Information.

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Re: Delay After Subfolder Creation or Rename

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admin wrote:Please post here what you get when you do CTRL Help/Various Information.

XYplorer: 11.60.0200 (Pro Edition - Lifetime License Pro)
Upgraded from: 11.60.0000
Loaded in: 8,043 ms at 9/24/2012 12:04:17 PM
Uptime: 2 days, 21 hrs, 30 mins, 26 secs
Memory Usage: 40,924 KB, Virtual Memory Size: 22,240 KB

OS: Windows 7 Professional (Service Pack 1), 64-bit (v6.1)
OS Uptime: 3 days, 2 hrs, 55 mins, 53 secs
User Role: Admin
Themes: Yes

1) A 'Yes' might slow down file operations and browsing:
AutoRefresh = Yes
Network = No
Removables = No
During File Ops = No
SHChangeNotify = Yes
Get Folder Sizes = No
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree = No
Autosize Columns = No
Icon Overlays = No

2) The bigger (more), the slower:
tag.dat has 248 bytes (0 tagged items)

3) A 'Yes' will speed up browsing:
Generic Icons = No
Generic Icons Network Only = No
Generic Icons For All Controls = No

4) A 'Yes' might slow down selecting an item:
File Info Tips = No
File Info Tips Custom = No

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