how NUKE works?

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davek
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how NUKE works?

Post by davek »

Hi

I create quite a few confidential files and need to securely overwrite/delete interim versions. I've not used XYPlorer for a while (mainly because NUKE didn't), but I loved the rest of it and finally decided to come back and see if I could persuade the boss to make NUKE nuke! Before adding it to the wish list I did a search and found a thread that seems to say that NUKE with confirm and no recycle destroys files with no hope of recovery, even with recovery software :D
Of course, the combination of "no confirmation " + "no way to restore" would unnecessarily deadly. So it will be:

Delete: confirmation (not if disabled in config) + recycle (not if Shift is down)
Mexican Delete (so or :wink: ): no confirmation + no recycle (but can be restored with special software) (= what now is called Nuke)
Nuke: confirmation + no way to restore
Could some one please confirm that this is the case and that it doesn't delete just by bypassing the recycle bin - if that really is the case, then XYplorer is the "bees knees" for me :D Does it over write the disc space?

Thanks

Dave

serendipity
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Re: how NUKE works?

Post by serendipity »

davek wrote:Hi

I create quite a few confidential files and need to securely overwrite/delete interim versions. I've not used XYPlorer for a while (mainly because NUKE didn't), but I loved the rest of it and finally decided to come back and see if I could persuade the boss to make NUKE nuke! Before adding it to the wish list I did a search and found a thread that seems to say that NUKE with confirm and no recycle destroys files with no hope of recovery, even with recovery software :D
Of course, the combination of "no confirmation " + "no way to restore" would unnecessarily deadly. So it will be:

Delete: confirmation (not if disabled in config) + recycle (not if Shift is down)
Mexican Delete (so or :wink: ): no confirmation + no recycle (but can be restored with special software) (= what now is called Nuke)
Nuke: confirmation + no way to restore
Could some one please confirm that this is the case and that it doesn't delete just by bypassing the recycle bin - if that really is the case, then XYplorer is the "bees knees" for me :D Does it over write the disc space?

Thanks

Dave
Hi and Welcome,
Nuke is not what you think. It's simply a Shift+Delete power given to a toolbar button. So a recovery software might still find it. However, you can outsource this to another program. I use a free program called Sdelete (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/maga ... 34519.aspx) with which I delete files occasionally and they don't get found even with recovery software. Plus i have assigned this to a button in toolbar. Let me know if you are interested, i have the code handy.
Hope that convinces you.

davek
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Re: how NUKE works?

Post by davek »

Hi

Sorry for the delay - I've been a bit poorly.

The thread I quoted suggests that "Nuke" offers confirmation coupled with "no way to restore". You seem to be saying that "no way to restore" really means "no convenient way to restore". When considering confidentiality, for me, "no way to restore" means the file is blitzed by overwriting and hence gone forever. I realise that I can use another programme to do the job, but then I can use other programmes to do a whole variety of jobs - the point of having a technical, comprehensive file manager like XYplorer is to have everything to hand.

I noticed that several people have asked for a more definitive "you file has gone forever" facility, so I'll add it to the wish list. In the meantime I guess I'll stick mainly to xplorer2 with occassional use of XYplorer :cry:

Thanks again for your help

Dave :)

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Re: how NUKE works?

Post by j_c_hallgren »

Hi and welcome to the XY forums!

What you may not know is that this isn't the typical support forum in that a Wish does not have to be specifically in the "Wish" sub-forum, ok? Don will often implement items from this sub-forum as well, so it'd keep the forum a bit cleaner if the quite similar thread you created there was deleted (which you can do until someone replies to it) and just express your desires from that thread here...thanks.

Update: I see that Don has replied there to your posting so can't delete it now...but in future, just know that wishes can be granted from any subforum if it morphs into one from the base posting.
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