Here's the new BETA (32-bit)

[eaj]

Hi,

I just registered XYplorer. I like it a lot, but there's something I miss: An address line where I can just type in (or copy/paste) a path, like in IE or in Windows Explorer and then it just "goes" to this path.

I frequently copy/past paths and then I would like to explore them quickly with XYplorer without having to slowly navigate to them folder by folder.

I can't find that option in XYplorer. Is it not available or is it me who just doesn't find where it is?

If it's not available, could you add it to the program? I would really appreciate it.

[Gandolf]

Menu "Go | Go to..." if you're a mouse user or shortcut is Ctrl+G, should do what you want I think.

[admin]

Merry Xmas -- I'm on a little holiday... cu next year!

[admin]

Note: I have very little time at the moment. All your posts are read and will be answered, but a bit slower than usual...

Download the latest XYplorer BETA version (v4.40.0033, 05-jan-2006).

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v4.40.0033 - 05.01.06 15:29
    ! Crash on encountering an empty or unknown-sized drive (eg Audio 
      CD) when listing MyComputer. Fixed.
    + Menu Go: added command "Clear History" (yep, it clears the history).
    * Tree and List: better vertical alignment of text and icons with 
      oversized tree and list fonts.
    ! Menu View, Font..: font dialog was not properly reinitialized to 
      the current font after user cancelled a previous font dialog. Fixed.

[The_Dude]

Hi!

I changed from TrackerV3 to XYplorer and copied my .ini file to the new folder.

However, there were a couple of changes - I had to re-enable "Auto Refresh on file system changes" in the options (by the way, what do the "Watch .... " options underneath that option mean ? - they are not in the documentation), and I could not find any place to re-enable Modeless Copying.

Was that removed in a recent change ?

PS I would have thought that "YXplorer" would have been better - it would also have been a comment on the program it replaces ! ("Why Explorer ?")

[admin]

However, there were a couple of changes - I had to re-enable "Auto Refresh on file system changes" in the options (by the way, what do the "Watch .... " options underneath that option mean ? - they are not in the documentation), and I could not find any place to re-enable Modeless Copying.
Was that removed in a recent change ?

Not removed but hidden:

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v4.20.0060 - 23.11.05 12:01
    + Here's a new INI file trick (aka hidden feature):
        [Settings]
        FileOpProgressModeless=1
      If FileOpProgressModeless=1 then the file operation progress 
      window is shown modeless. Which effectively means that you can 
      go on working while files are being moved or copied in the 
      background.
      Note however that when file operations were triggered by 
      drag'n'drop the source window is usually blocked until the 
      operation is finished.
      Note also that a modeless progress window can easily get lost 
      behind larger windows.

"Watch .... " options: watch non-current paths.

PS I would have thought that "YXplorer" would have been better - it would also have been a comment on the program it replaces ! ("Why Explorer ?")

Yes, the only point against it was the sound, which is identical to "Explorer". So when talking about it and comparing it to Explorer it would get quite confusing. (already discussed here: http://www.xyplorer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3618#3618)

[The_Dude]

"Watch .... " options: watch non-current paths.

I found the Beta notice where you introduced this, and I'm still not clear on exactly the difference.

First, I assume that you are allowing removable drives and network drives to not be watched in case people have reasons to treat them differently.

However, I'm not sure what you mean by "elsewhere".

Suppose, I have 3 tabs, and a tree at the left.

If I have Auto-Refresh checked, the what is the difference between selected and elsewhere ?

Do I no longer need to use F4 if I have Auto-Refresh ?

[admin]

If I have Auto-Refresh checked, the what is the difference between selected and elsewhere ?

For once, it's done in a totally different way technically. But that should not concern you as a user.

Try the following to see the difference: rename any folder that's visible in the tree but not the current XY folder using another app (eg Explorer or another XY instance). If "watch folders elsewhere" is checked, XY should immediately update that folder; else you have to press F4.

Another example: I have a USB stick. When I plug it in XY immediately adds the drive to the tree when "watch removable drives elsewhere" is checked.

I see it's confusing and that reminds me that originally I planned to remove these "elsewhere" options (having them hard-set to "enabled" internally) because who needs these options anyway? Any objections?

[j_c_hallgren]

As a newbie, i can see the value in the option...so maybe it's just how it's labeled and/or documented that is the problem...I've had the same thing in what to call an option so users know what I meant...

Because there is some minimal overhead in doing the refresh, and user may not want that at that point, or may not want the screen modified to alter their view of current tree...so allowing one to defer that can be desireable...

[admin]

As a newbie, i can see the value in the option...so maybe it's just how it's labeled and/or documented that is the problem...

Ok, you have a suggestion for improval? (I liked your other ideas conc. Report tab, will eventually realize them...)

[j_c_hallgren]

Before I make a suggestion on changes to text, I'd need to fully 100% understand what the sub-options do, and the way they are now, it's a bit hard to see that...so my comments are based on how it appears to be.

The first thing I would do is add a ":" to end of "...system changes" line to clarify futher that following are sub-options. The indent does somewhat, but that would nail it down.

Anyway, here's how I could see it (but maybe this doesn't match current code):
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Auto-refresh on file system changes:
    Current path/folder only
    All paths/folders:
        On local drives
        On network drives
        On removable drives

if Current not selected, ALL is default (or could be mutually exclusive checkbox), which would then allow the device type to be specified via the next three

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Because IF you want update of current selected, it shouldn't matter WHERE it is...but if you want the 'rest of the world' updated, you may want to limit it to 1 or 2 of the 3 choices....

[admin]

Because IF you want update of current selected, it shouldn't matter WHERE it is...but if you want the 'rest of the world' updated, you may want to limit it to 1 or 2 of the 3 choices....

Sounds reasonable, but I should tell (or have told) you something about the history of this option: Not long ago, there was just one "Auto-Refresh..." checkbox. Then I got a hint that network access slowed down with "Auto-Refresh..." on. I could not reproduce this on my little home network though, so to find out experimentally what was happening on the users' networks I offered these increased configuration options.

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v4.40.0000 - 26.11.05 19:15
    + Configuration: redesigned the "Auto-refresh on file system changes" 
      section. Now you can specify in a very detailed way what you want 
      to be watched and where.
      For your interest as a programmer:
      - "Watch current path and subtree on: Local drives/Network drives" 
        uses the FindFirstChangeNotification API.
      - "Watch non-current locations: Folders/Removable drives" uses the 
        SHChangeNotify API.
      Tip: if you are using the network a lot you might encounter 
      dramatic speed differences related to these settings.
        Note that auto-refresh concerns exclusively changes triggered 
      from other processes. If you disable it completely, XYplorer 
      should still correctly update the display with regard to its own 
      file operations. I say should... some things might have slipt 
      through...

Result: the "Network Drives" checkbox made all the difference.

So, I would think it would be enough to have just 2 checkboxes now, one being a sub-option of the other:

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Auto-refresh on file system changes
  Include network locations

BTW, performance losses are not notable here.

[j_c_hallgren]

I don't have much time at this moment, but...
I still think giving choices as I suggested would be good..because:

On a slower system with large heavily populated HD, it may be desireable to NOT update everything else, just the current folder...give user the choice!
And I may want to exclude the removeable drive as it may be a floppy and prefer not to access it more than absolutely needed...ok?

I believe the choices as I proposed would be clear and understandable by most all users, including newbies/dummies...

[admin]

Note: I have very little time at the moment. All your posts are read and will be answered, but a bit slower than usual...

Download the latest XYplorer BETA version (v4.40.0036, 09-jan-2006).

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v4.40.0036 - 09.01.06 13:49
    + Toolbar: added a bit of visual 3D push effect.
    + Toolbar, history buttons (back/fore): added drop down arrows. Now 
      you can popup the context menu also with a left click, or with a 
      still cooler mousedown-and-select-on-mouseup motion. Right click 
      still works as well.
    * Toolbar, history buttons, context menu: now shows only the history 
      items, not the other stuff from menu Go.
    * Toolbar, history buttons, context menu: increased maximum menu 
      size from 24 to 32 items.
    * Menu View: renamed "Show Folder Sizes" to "Show Folder Sizes for 
      Now" to make clear that this is just a one time command, not a 
      setting. To show folder sizes always you have to set it in 
      Configuration/General.
    ! Menu File, Info to Clipboard: there were some minor 
      inconsistencies when copying current/selected path/files (Ctrl+P) or 
      current/selected paths (Ctrl+Shift+P) from tree and list. Fixed.
      Ctrl+P:
        if list has focus and items are selected then
          copy all selected items' names with full path to clipboard
        else
          copy current tree path to clipboard
      Ctrl+Shift+P:
        if list has focus and items are selected then
          copy all selected items' full path to clipboard
        else
          copy current tree path to clipboard

[admin]

On a slower system with large heavily populated HD, it may be desireable to NOT update everything else, just the current folder...give user the choice!

With non-current folders it's really not a matter of performance since I update no data but just some tree captions. And polling the information isn't expensive either (unless on some networks). Also no floppies are ever accessed here.

I believe the choices as I proposed would be clear and understandable by most all users, including newbies/dummies...

Could some other all users, including newbies/dummies, comment, please. It's always good to hear a 2nd opinion.
My own suggestion still stands (while the wording can surely be improved):

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Auto-refresh on file system changes 
  Include network locations