The Glider™

[admin]

I wonder if the script part should work like the hamburger in the breadcrumb bar?

Nah, probably not. All those toolbar buttons cannot handle <g_path>.

Talking to myself.

[eil]

I wonder if the script part should work like the hamburger in the breadcrumb bar?

If this would mean Glider script button will be able not only work copy//paste scripts, but call whole menus like Hamburger one - i'd say yes, as any place where scripts can be used should be full-functional.

Couple design flaws noticed:
1. Set Extra Large activation zone + Left/Both Edges = the activation zone gets so wide that it "overlaps" the nodes and start of name of the drives in the tree(basically anything top level with nodes at the most-left side), so due to this user can never click on node, as Glider activates and covers it.
I'd propose, if it's possible, to make activation zone "go background"/never go in front of nodes or folder names rectangle zone. The features itself, large zone and side selection, are useful to have, this problem is only when option at start selected simultaneously and only for top level nodes.
2. When user clicks any buttons in Glider, it stays up, which looks like nothing actually happened, and it's easy to spontaneously click again waiting for any change/confirmation of results.
Maybe Glider should disappear after making a left-click, to visually acknowledge operation was done?.. Best would be if it disappears till user moves on line of another folder.('cause as i see now, Glider keeps popping up again and again with any 1px position change inside activation zone = some vertical boundaries should be used to remember Glider was already used on this row)

[admin]

1. I would see this as a user error/responsibility.

2. In many contexts it's quite useful that the glider remains visible (and pointing to the folder).

[eil]

1. I would see this as a user error/responsibility.

2. In many contexts it's quite useful that the glider remains visible (and pointing to the folder).

1. So you understand that users with say bad eyes/hands, who will try to use extra large reaction size and become not able to open nodes of drives in tree, will consider this as a bug - and you let it happen?..
2. Just curious, can you please describe 2 scenarios when Glider may be needed for more than 1 button action?(like you already made copy/move, Glider is still there, and what you may want to do more?)

[admin]

1. Yes
2. No

It's time to get it out there.

[eil]

BTW, even if user with extra large zone sets delay 2000(seemingly whole 2 sec to be able to click node!) - it still doesn't allow to click a node, 'cause zone just straight goes over everything as i presumed(that's why it should be possible to instead put zone layer beneath).

[kiwichick]

viewtopic.php?p=214020&sid=0b4caa8e63a8 ... 4f#p214020 "Beta version for Downloads" branch.

Thanks, I thought there may have been a page called Changelog with all of the information and a link to it on the homepage.

Slim border between tree and list - hover close to it, on tree's side.

I thought hovering close to the tree side meant close to the name of the folder/location on the tree side not close to the 'dividing' panel between tree and list. Got it now, thanks again.

[eil]

Thanks, I thought there may have been a page called Changelog with all of the information and a link to it on the homepage.

Actually there must be a link to changelog txt somewhere on main site pages, i just always hang on on forum don't remember where - check it out and maybe you'll find.

I thought hovering close to the tree side meant close to the name of the folder/location on the tree side not close to the 'dividing' panel between tree and list. Got it now, thanks again.

Glider has options now, right-click on it and in context menu select Hover zone > there are variants like on Right, Left or Both sides of tree boundaries. "Near name"-activation was at the very start of feature shaping.

[admin]

BTW, even if user with extra large zone sets delay 2000(seemingly whole 2 sec to be able to click node!) - it still doesn't allow to click a node, 'cause zone just straight goes over everything as i presumed(that's why it should be possible to instead put zone layer beneath).

Maybe you could provide a screenshot to illustrate what you mean?

[eil]

Maybe you could provide a screenshot to illustrate what you mean?

GIF 08.09.2023 12-24-253.gif (2.43 MiB) Viewed 1199 times

Depicting how Large and Extra Large activation zones don't allow to open nods of drives.
During making a gif, i figured out that it actually can be dangerous - user may try "to be faster, and try to click before Glider pops-up", which leads to accidental push of popping Glider, and non-intended operation happens.(that's what happens somewhere after middle of gif, had to stop coping started in background)

[admin]

As I said, user error. You have been making the wrong choices.

- Looks like you enabled Snap to Edge.
- Why don't you use a vertical Glider?

[eil]

As I said, user error. You have been making the wrong choices.

- Why don't you use a vertical Glider?

Well i'm just depicting that this will lead to people considering it a bug, not a user error, as anything that app allows should work in combinations. That's purely testing, i don't mean i'm planning to use exactly this combination of settings, but somebody will, and it makes lots of troubles for those.
Vertical Glider may help with miss-clicks, but the main problem of activation zone not allowing to click node will still be there. Gif shows it poorly, but whole second part i'm not just trying to point at node - i'm trying to click it each time, and as you see even with 2sec delay activation zone covers node area before i manage to move at node position and open it.

[admin]

... anything that app allows should work in combinations.

No.

[Filehero]

Before (just after the beta upgrade) the Glider's buttons were vertically aligned on the nodes I'd checked (because of my narrow tree, I supposed). After the color change (and subsequent reset), w/o touching the tree pane's width, the button layout is and stays horizontally.

Seems it was just an unfortunate coincidence after the update introducing GliderBtnsPerRow. I guess this new tweak had been activated just by changing anything.

Anyway, it's fine now.

What about the list pane workers like @Horst and me?
More seriously, the list glider is still an option, Don?

[admin]

More seriously, the list glider is still an option, Don?

Sure, but there are questions: Where is the hover zone (for all the different list views)? What should it actually do (what buttons), or should it only pop for folders?