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eil
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Re: The Glider™

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Filehero wrote: 05 Sep 2023 19:40 Nevertheless, I'm still thinking about a way how to offer new (feature) users a hint to the activation zone (of course, only when activated). Maybe some faint something can be shown when hovering over the tree nodes (the labels or a certain region).
That's why i proposed this visual clue.
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Re: The Glider™

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admin wrote: 02 Sep 2023 15:19 What about reading the change log?
Can you please tell me where the change log is? I see it often referred to but I can't find anything called change log.
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Re: The Glider™

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OK, call me dumb cos that's what I'm calling myself but I don't understand how this works. I've turned the glider on in Customize Tree, then selected an item in the list but the glider doesn't appear no matter where I hover in the tree.
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Re: The Glider™

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eil wrote: 05 Sep 2023 20:38 That's why i proposed this visual clue.
I have surely missed that. ^^

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Re: The Glider™

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kiwichick wrote: 06 Sep 2023 08:33 Can you please tell me where the change log is? I see it often referred to but I can't find anything called change log.
viewtopic.php?p=214020&sid=0b4caa8e63a8 ... 4f#p214020 "Beta version for Downloads" branch.
kiwichick wrote: 06 Sep 2023 08:39 I've turned the glider on in Customize Tree, then selected an item in the list but the glider doesn't appear no matter where I hover in the tree.
Slim border between tree and list - hover close to it, on tree's side.
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Re: The Glider™

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Hey there,

I have a nice new version here, but due to a weird FileZilla/FTP problem I cannot upload anything ATM. :\ Working on it...

Don

UPDATE: works again. :beer:

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Re: The Glider™

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hi! the glider is coming along very nicely. the arrow, the highlighted box, colors, etc. are all designed very well ! at this point, i most likely will be unable to use it due to the narrow activation (i have it set to both sides). i find it very difficult 1) with my eyesight "getting there" and 2) a not-very-steady mouse hand nowadays.

as you can see, there is quite a bit of space for me to hover; but the current "window" is too narrow.
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also, for the tree, i have "full row select" enabled to help visualize what i have selected. this is what the glider looks like over top of it, a little lost :
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is there a "show grid lines" option for the tree (the same as it is for the list) ? i really love having that enabled in my list.

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Re: The Glider™

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Check out the next beta...

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Re: The Glider™

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A very pleasant path of maturation. :-)

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Re: The Glider™

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Totally agree with Filehero. Great work! It was a pleasure to see the development. I noticed a few people were having issues with hot zones. I don't myself, but maybe the answer is a configurable hot zone width - distance from left or right edge in pixels (or whatever).

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Re: The Glider™

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     - Added the "Button Size" submenu: Small, Large, Extra Large.
        Note that larger buttons also increase the size of the hover zone.

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Re: The Glider™

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Nice additions: colour customization as expected adds easier differentiation and all the option in context menu - very handy! :appl: Though i didn't understand what Snap to Edge does?..

I'd say only 3 themes left for possible polishing:
- buttons edit(icons mainly) = not a big deal, but would be nice to have and somebody definitely will ask for that later;
- some visual indicator where to target to get Glider = user-friendliness plus easier for new users to accommodate/find feature;
- activation area size = even with Both Edges, the activation zone is pretty narrow and may not be that comfortable to target(GreetingsFromPoland's description as example). Maybe some "2x activation area" "3x activation area" option in right-click menu, for users that feel hard to to catch a place.?
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Re: The Glider™

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If i may, few mock-ups for mentioned "visual targetting clue" option.

This how it looks now:
now hover
now hover
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now glider
now glider
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Now these are mock-ups i propose for targetting area size and visual target designs.
Glider Visual Target option activated:
visual clue 1x size
visual clue 1x size
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Additionally variants with 2x size of activation area and 3x size:
visual clue 2x size
visual clue 2x size
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visual clue 3x size
visual clue 3x size
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Glider activated (small area, small buttons):
activated small
activated small
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Glider activated (small area, extra-large buttons):
activated extra large
activated extra large
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Re: The Glider™

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Don, you probably know this already, there's no indication (yet) on the save button (turning brown) that Glider settings have been changed. I changed settings (e.g., snap, button size), exited and the settings had not been saved since I hadn't saved them. :) No problem on re-start as long as you remember to save before exiting.

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Re: The Glider™

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eil wrote: 06 Sep 2023 21:34 If i may, few mock-ups for mentioned "visual targetting clue" option.
It's a close call, but I decided that less (overkill) is more (air).

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