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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

Post by Horst »

jupe wrote: 18 Apr 2023 20:03 Works for me, using the same setup.

edit: Actually, you didn't mention installing the HEVC decoder from the MS Store in addition to the HEIF image extensions, that is also a requirement for heic, and could be why it works for me.
The HEVC decoder is not necessary for displaying .heic thumbnails in Explorer.
Explorer shows thumbnails for .heic without problems
and Total Commander using the Explorer method also display them.
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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And your definitely not just seeing cached thumbnails from when you had CopyTrans installed? Because my experience was completely different, I didn't get thumbnails for heic in Explorer or XY without the HEVC video extensions (maybe your CPU does HW decoding instead, mine is old CPU) in addition to HEIF Extensions, anyway somehow your setup must be different, so I'll stop with the bad suggestions.

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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No cached thumbnails.
I deleted all old thumbnails in all file managers for testing
after uninstalling CopyTransHEICforWindowsv.
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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admin wrote: 18 Apr 2023 18:08 Are you sure that CLIP files get no thumbnails with a fresh instance?
Definitely! Double-triple checked :kidding:

XY still shows this after I paste jupe's command
e <get thumbnailprovider clip>;
230419_XYplorer_nothumb.png
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So I checked within CLIP Studio to see if it's correctly associated (and it is)
CLIP_ASSOCIATION.png
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Then I checked my registry and it seems fine there too:
CLIP_REGISTRY.png
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Then I wondered if it's maybe my XY, so I downloaded some HEIC/HEIF samples to see if I could render them (and I can!)
230419_XY_what_the_heic.png
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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CLIP should work in the next beta. :cup:

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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With the newest beta the previewcheck for .heic produces this

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XYplorer 24.30.0107  -  Windows 11, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621.1555 (10.0)  -  2023-04-19 15:08:19
=========================================================================================================

Preview Check: C:\Temp\Test2\Muster\Example02.heic

+ n - preview loaded in 32,8 ms
- p - preview failed in 179,0 ms
- p32 - preview failed in 8,1 ms
- p64 - preview failed in 98,4 ms
+ t - preview loaded in 40,5 ms
+ tf32 - preview loaded in 63,1 ms
+ tf64 - preview loaded in 399,4 ms
+ te32 - preview loaded in 695,5 ms
- tg32 - preview failed in 43,5 ms

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Preview64 = 1
PreviewFallback = 1
PreviewEarlyFactory = 1
ThumbsRAWfiles = 1
ThumbsShell = 1

Document Files = .afdesign.afpub.ai.cdr.cgm.rtf.doc.dot.docm.docx.dotx.xls.xlt.xlsm.xlsx.xltx.ppt.pot.pps.pptx.potx.ppsx.wpd.wpf.odt.ods.odp.one.pdf.eps.ps.jtx.xps.oxps.dwg.dwf.dwfx.dxf.easmx.edrwx.eprtx.sldprt.sldasm.slddrw.prt.asm.drw.eml.msg.nws.skp.layout.epub.mobi.3mf.fbx.fs. - except: .

Image Files = .gif.ico.cur.emf.wmf.png.bmp.dib.rle.tga.tpic.dds.hdr.pic.pict.clip.lip.exr.heic.heif.webp.avif.afphoto.c4d.kra.xcf.xpm.pjp.pjpg.pjpeg.jfif.jpg.jpeg.jpe.psb.psd.arw.cpt.cr2.crw.dcr.dng.erf.fff.mrw.mef.nef.nrw.orf.pef.raf.raw.rw2.rwl.sr2.srf.srw.x3f.tif.tiff.apng. - except: 

Preview as Thumbnail = .afdesign.afphoto.afpub.c4d.epub.layout.mobi.skp.sldasm.slddrw.sldprt.xar.3mf.fbx.fs.prt.asm.drw.webp. - except: .

Thumbs64Ext = afphoto.afdesign.afpub.sldasm.slddrw.sldprt.skp.layout.heic

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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Well, it should reflect the truth now. You still got problems?

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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admin wrote: 19 Apr 2023 16:20 Well, it should reflect the truth now. You still got problems?
Yes, no thumbnails for .heic files.
Working thumbnails in Explorer and Everything (which uses Explorer preview).
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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admin wrote: 19 Apr 2023 13:27 CLIP should work in the next beta. :cup:
Working, thank you so much!!
230419_XY_CLIPPY.png
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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Horst wrote: 19 Apr 2023 17:26
admin wrote: 19 Apr 2023 16:20 Well, it should reflect the truth now. You still got problems?
Yes, no thumbnails for .heic files.
Working thumbnails in Explorer and Everything (which uses Explorer preview).
Weird! They should work now. :? Well, I'll add a little voodoo to the next beta.

PS: try to remove HEIC from Thumbs64Ext

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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admin wrote: 19 Apr 2023 19:15 Weird! They should work now. :? Well, I'll add a little voodoo to the next beta.

PS: try to remove HEIC from Thumbs64Ext
This doesn't change anything.
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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The check now displays this

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XYplorer 24.30.0108  -  Windows 11, 64-bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621.1555 (10.0)  -  2023-04-19 20:30:30
=========================================================================================================

Preview Check: C:\Temp\Test2\Muster\Example02.heic

+ n - preview loaded in 59,5 ms
- p - preview failed in 530,3 ms
- p32 - preview failed in 7,7 ms
- p64 - preview failed in 98,6 ms
+ t - preview loaded in 66,3 ms
+ tf32 - preview loaded in 60,0 ms
+ tf64 - preview loaded in 405,2 ms
+ te32 - preview loaded in 802,0 ms
- tg32 - preview failed in 34,5 ms

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Preview64 = 1
PreviewFallback = 1
PreviewEarlyFactory = 1
ThumbsRAWfiles = 1
ThumbsShell = 1

- Document Files = .afdesign.afpub.ai.cdr.cgm.rtf.doc.dot.docm.docx.dotx.xls.xlt.xlsm.xlsx.xltx.ppt.pot.pps.pptx.potx.ppsx.wpd.wpf.odt.ods.odp.one.pdf.eps.ps.jtx.xps.oxps.dwg.dwf.dwfx.dxf.easmx.edrwx.eprtx.sldprt.sldasm.slddrw.prt.asm.drw.eml.msg.nws.skp.layout.epub.mobi.3mf.fbx.fs. - except: .

+ Image Files = .gif.ico.cur.emf.wmf.png.bmp.dib.rle.tga.tpic.dds.hdr.pic.pict.clip.lip.exr.heic.heif.webp.avif.afphoto.c4d.kra.xcf.xpm.pjp.pjpg.pjpeg.jfif.jpg.jpeg.jpe.psb.psd.arw.cpt.cr2.crw.dcr.dng.erf.fff.mrw.mef.nef.nrw.orf.pef.raf.raw.rw2.rwl.sr2.srf.srw.x3f.tif.tiff.apng. - except: 

- Preview as Thumbnail = .afdesign.afphoto.afpub.c4d.epub.layout.mobi.skp.sldasm.slddrw.sldprt.xar.3mf.fbx.fs.prt.asm.drw.webp. - except: .

- Thumbs64Ext = afphoto.afdesign.afpub.sldasm.slddrw.sldprt.skp.layout

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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And you get HEIC thumbnails now?

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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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admin wrote: 19 Apr 2023 20:34 And you get HEIC thumbnails now?
No
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Re: Thumbnails of some filetypes show in Windows Explorer but XYplorer

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Impossible.

This should show a preview:

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preview "C:\Temp\Test2\Muster\Example02.heic", tf32;

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