Virtual Folders vs Paper Folders

[klownboy]

Hi Don, still with the latest 23.90.0422 I see the same issue I mention above. My steps to create the situation.

-Go to a tab for an existing Misc or Downloads folder with many files including quite a few jpgs. It's normal assigned FVS is simply list or details view.
-Establish/setup a new virtual tab
-Set that virtual Tab's Visual filter: *.jpg | *.gif | *.png
-Set location as: vi:<get pick>
-Select the new virtual tab if not already and set the new virtual tab in a thumbnail view.
-Save a new FVS for that Virtual tab in that thumbnail view include all the attributes for filtering etc. in the FVS.
-View the tab with the Visual filter checked in the thumbnail view - building thumbs if not done already
-Now click to turn "off" the Visual filter on the virtual tab thereby virtualizing the entire Downloads or Misc folder we were originally set on.

When I cycle the visual filter on and off, the thumbnails for all the non-jpg, non-gif and non-png files are rebuilt from scratch when turning off the visual filter each and every time.

Obviously, it will do that for the first run as it should, but it does that every time. Is it because the non *.jpg | *.gif | *.png files like exe and pdfs etc are not cached in any way so it has to be repeated? This does not happen when using vi:<get pick *.jpg;*.jpeg;*.png>.

[admin]

Should work better in next beta. (Did not yet test your special case, but made FVS generally work for VFOs).

[klownboy]

The same issue still occurs in the scenario I gave above - when I use "Toggle Visual Filter" for the tab and cycle the filter on and off - which is cycling from showing the thumbnails of the jpg, gif and png to showing all files in the folder. What I may be seeing is: with the filter off, all the normally non-cached files like exe, zip, txt files etc. being drawn over again the images are not. The filtered images (jpg, gif and pngs) are properly cached and are not being redrawn on each cycle of "Toggle visual filter" (i.e., no redrawing of thumbs is occurring when the filter is on showing only the cached images. It happens when the filter is off showing everything in the folder and in that state, it's only redrawing the non-cached files).

By the way, I wouldn't be doing the above anyway. I'll be using vi:<get pick *.jpg;*.jpeg;*.png>

[admin]

The next beta should handle it better.

[nerdweed]

Help will come.

I have a locked tab called "Pic Tiles" now, pointing to this VFO: vi:<get pick *.jpg;*.jpeg;*.png> and set to Small Tiles view. I just open this tab to see all those pictures in my current folder wherever that is. And my current tab is not changed at all (scroll pos, selections, view). I can jump back and forth using F7. Awesome.

Wonderful. This shows the potential of VFO. May be it can support the collection format

{:Image}

[admin]

Ha, not totally unexpected. Next beta...

[klownboy]

That issue above seems to be much improved after beta 23.90.0424. There is some repeated drawing of thumbnails when the filter is removed but you've made it less. It appears to mostly be "exe" files that thumbs are still being created for.

Edit: I forgot to mention, "exe" are not listed under my "Image" category, nor are they listed in "Preview as Thumbnail".

[admin]

How can you tell that thumbs are still being created for "exe" files?

[klownboy]

I'm working from a large folder with plenty of everything, exe files, images, and zip files because it's my downloads folder. The tab that I'm actually set on is a new filtered tab with location vi:<get pick> and a visual filter of {:Image} This was an alternate way of cycling the filter as opposed to vi:<get pick {:Image}> discussed earlier.

So, with the tab's Visual filter toggled on, I get the proper image thumbnails. None of them are being redrawn. With the tab's visual filter toggled off, as I mentioned some (less than before) of the non-images are being redrawn. It's still in a thumbnail view so I can visually see the thumbnails being drawn. As I said it seems to be mostly exe files as well as some zips. I have zip files selected in the Preview as Thumbnail category since I have a codec that shows an image contained within the zip file.

The key here is I'm cycling back and forth by toggling the vi:<get pick> tab's "Toggle Visual Filter". I'm not going back and forth (using F7) from original downloads folder in (detail view) to the other filtered vi:<get pick> tab. Doing that actually works fine (i.e. it works like a filter tab set with vi:<get pick {:Image}>. So honestly, it's not that big a deal.

[admin]

Oh, I guess you see it in the status bar, of course! I will take care about those EXE.

Uh no, I did that long ago. What you see is probably the extraction of icons. If this is slow enough for you to see, consider excluding XY from AV. But even then it's kind of slow. Can't help it, gotta wait for the shell to do the extraction.

[klownboy]

Okay Don, thanks for the explanation. As I mentioned I typically would never toggle visual filters via the tab context menu anyway.

consider excluding XY from AV

I'm not sure what you mean by "AV". Oh, you probably mean antivirus. I have everything associated with XYplorer already excluded from AV - exe, folders, etc.

[admin]

Maybe I should have said, simplified time filters.

Well, hold my beer (v23.90.0425): vi:<get pick 3.m/{:Image}> //"3 newest pics"

[klownboy]

Well, hold my beer (v23.90.0425): vi:<get pick 3.m/{:Image}> //"3 newest pics"

Very cool Don. Beta 23.90.425 works great. I now have pick tabs, one for JPGs, one for GIFs, one for PDFs, and one for the latest 50 files. Now, if I only had one that could get me a coffee in the morning and a beer at night, I'd be all set.