Resort on Rename

[admin]

That's just a standard Windows "home network".

[admin]

Found it. Not sure if it's of any use. I created a file and named it x.txt, then created a file and named it z.txt. In Pane 1 on the C drive, z remained above x. In Pane 2 on the mapped network V drive z moves under x about half a second after naming. Tested using a ::fresh instance.

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        0  -  2022-03-27 10:19:56.514  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | C:\test
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Thanks for the log. However it did not really show where the refresh is triggered. It rather shows that no refresh is triggered. The next beta will add a little more info when you use the same logging settings (logchange 7; I assume).

[Quaraxkad]

Thanks for the log. However it did not really show where the refresh is triggered. It rather shows that no refresh is triggered.

Is *refresh* the same thing as *resort*, or is there a separate more light-weight function that does the resorting without a full folder refresh? Just asking so I know if "refresh" and "resort" are interchangable.

[admin]

Refresh implies a resort according to the current sort order.

[Quaraxkad]

Did another test with the latest beta, 23.00.0201. Used the portable zip with no config changes. The new debug log:

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XYplorer 23.00.0201  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.556  -  2022-05-01 10:04:46
==============================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-05-01 10:00:24.524  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-01 10:00:24.524  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      253  -  2022-05-01 10:00:24.777  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    3.968  -  2022-05-01 10:00:28.745  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-01 10:00:28.745  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
       88  -  2022-05-01 10:00:28.833  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\x.txt | x.txt
      223  -  2022-05-01 10:00:29.056  ---  RefreshPane 1, flags=0
      626  -  2022-05-01 10:00:29.682  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-01 10:00:29.682  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      427  -  2022-05-01 10:00:30.109  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      670  -  2022-05-01 10:00:30.779  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-01 10:00:30.779  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      308  -  2022-05-01 10:00:31.087  ---  RefreshPane 1, flags=0
       37  -  2022-05-01 10:00:31.124  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\z.txt | z.txt
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 4:03.760  -  2022-05-01 10:04:34.884  ---  WatchDir IN: 1 | 2 | C:\
        7  -  2022-05-01 10:04:34.891  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 2]: Type 2 (0x2) | 
  Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
  Exit2: IsRenaming
    2.141  -  2022-05-01 10:04:37.032  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEFOLDER: C:\New Folder | New Folder > C:\test | test
    1.341  -  2022-05-01 10:04:38.373  ---  WatchDir IN: 1 | 1 | C:\test
        0  -  2022-05-01 10:04:38.373  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 2]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
  Exit2: IsRenaming
      405  -  2022-05-01 10:04:38.778  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
    1.563  -  2022-05-01 10:04:40.341  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > C:\test\x.txt | x.txt
      371  -  2022-05-01 10:04:40.712  ---  WatchDir IN: 1 | 1 | C:\test
        0  -  2022-05-01 10:04:40.712  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 2]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
  Exit2: IsRenaming
      214  -  2022-05-01 10:04:40.926  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      732  -  2022-05-01 10:04:41.658  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > C:\test\z.txt | z.txt

The RefreshPane log item shows up in the network V drive but not when doing the same thing on the C drive.

[admin]

Still not sure where it comes from. I will add even more logs to the next beta (v23.00.0204). Please try again.

[Quaraxkad]

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XYplorer 23.00.0204  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.556  -  2022-05-03 09:21:31
==============================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:17.152  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:17.152  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      297  -  2022-05-03 09:21:17.449  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
    2.045  -  2022-05-03 09:21:19.494  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:19.494  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      146  -  2022-05-03 09:21:19.640  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\x.txt | x.txt
      183  -  2022-05-03 09:21:19.823  ---  tmrDelay, Path=V:\test\, lDelayedActionOrig=15, CanR=False
      139  -  2022-05-03 09:21:19.962  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:19.962  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      337  -  2022-05-03 09:21:20.299  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      291  -  2022-05-03 09:21:20.590  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:20.590  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      312  -  2022-05-03 09:21:20.902  ---  tmrDelay, Path=V:\test\, lDelayedActionOrig=15, CanR=True
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:20.902  ---  RefreshPane 1, flags=0
       26  -  2022-05-03 09:21:20.928  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\z.txt | z.txt
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    3.398  -  2022-05-03 09:21:24.326  ---  WatchDir IN: 1 | 1 | C:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:24.326  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 2]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
  Exit2: IsRenaming
      267  -  2022-05-03 09:21:24.593  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      660  -  2022-05-03 09:21:25.253  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > C:\test\x.txt | x.txt
      169  -  2022-05-03 09:21:25.422  ---  WatchDir IN: 1 | 1 | C:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 09:21:25.422  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 2]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: path not listed in Pane 1
  Exit2: IsRenaming
      473  -  2022-05-03 09:21:25.895  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
    1.149  -  2022-05-03 09:21:27.044  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: C:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > C:\test\z.txt | z.txt

[admin]

Thanks for testing, but I cannot see any helpful clue.

I did some experimenting with fresh portable old versions and found that XYplorer 22.60.0200 does *not* exhibit this bahiour; everything after does. Furthing digging in the beta forum thread narrowed it down further, up to xyplorer_22.70.0016_beta_noinstall does *not* exhibit thiss behaviour; xyplorer 22.70.0017_beta_noinstall and later does. There's nothing in the changelog to suggest anything about resorts was changed, but I went back and forth between these two versions multiple times and confirmed it.

Are you 100% sure that the difference is not caused by the different setting of Configuration | General | Refresh, Icons, History | Auto-Refresh | Include network locations?

[Quaraxkad]

OK, I was confused for a minute but got it now. When I went through the recent betas and thought I found the version where the problem was introduced, I actually just found the beta where Configuration | General | Refresh, Icons, History | Auto-Refresh | Include network locations became enabled by default. I have always had that setting enabled, I was unaware that it used to default to disabled. So naming 22.70.0017 as the originator was false.

Now knowing that, I went all the way back to the oldest beta I had (14.10), enabled that setting on a fresh instance, and yes the resort *does* occur in even those old betas. But I knew for a fact that I had the same combination of options enabled in the past and renaming did not trigger a resort. The difference now is that I'm on Windows 11 and I used to be on Windows 7. So I tested on my Windows 7 laptop. I confirmed that "Include network locations" is enabled, and "Resort list immediately after rename" is disabled.

No resort on Win7:

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XYplorer 23.00.0204  -  Windows 7 Professional (Service Pack 1), 64-bit, Build 7601  -  2022-05-03 17:51:37
===========================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-05-03 17:50:58.330  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:50:58.330  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      280  -  2022-05-03 17:50:58.610  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
    1.280  -  2022-05-03 17:50:59.890  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\x.txt | x.txt
      312  -  2022-05-03 17:51:00.202  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:00.202  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      249  -  2022-05-03 17:51:00.451  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
    1.217  -  2022-05-03 17:51:01.668  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\z.txt | z.txt

Resort on Win11:

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XYplorer 23.00.0204  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.556  -  2022-05-03 17:51:24
==============================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:17.510  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:17.510  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      209  -  2022-05-03 17:51:17.719  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      264  -  2022-05-03 17:51:17.983  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:17.983  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      307  -  2022-05-03 17:51:18.290  ---  tmrDelay, Path=V:\test\, lDelayedActionOrig=15, CanR=True
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:18.290  ---  RefreshPane 1, flags=0
       43  -  2022-05-03 17:51:18.333  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\x.txt | x.txt
      273  -  2022-05-03 17:51:18.606  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:18.606  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      462  -  2022-05-03 17:51:19.068  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      628  -  2022-05-03 17:51:19.696  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | V:\test
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:19.696  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      294  -  2022-05-03 17:51:19.990  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: V:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > V:\test\z.txt | z.txt
       22  -  2022-05-03 17:51:20.012  ---  tmrDelay, Path=V:\test\, lDelayedActionOrig=15, CanR=True
        0  -  2022-05-03 17:51:20.012  ---  RefreshPane 1, flags=0

[admin]

The notification system changes with each Windows version. As I said before, also here on Win8.1 I cannot reproduce the issue.

Anyway, I might be able to do something, need to think...

[Quaraxkad]

I just tested v23.00.0205 and the problem seems to be resolved. Thank you!

[Quaraxkad]

I've found a quirk that may be related to the recent change that fixed the issue in this thread.

Moving a file shortly after creating/renaming it does not trigger an auto-refresh. I use TeraCopy as my copy handler, so the files are moved by an external process. As a test, I created a new file named test.txt. Then created a new file named test2.txt. Immediately drag+drop test2.txt it out of the folder, and the list does not refresh. Drag+drop test.txt out of the folder, the list immediately refreshes. This is repeatable on both network and local drives. The list never refreshes until the second new file is moved. Moving other files that hadn't just been renamed *always* triggers an instant automatic refresh.

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XYplorer 23.10.0028  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.675  -  2022-06-03 01:25:06
==============================================================================================================

    1.767  -  2022-06-03 01:24:38.284  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt >  | 
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2.807  -  2022-06-03 01:24:41.091  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt > D:\test\test.txt | test.txt
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    9.374  -  2022-06-03 01:24:50.465  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt >  | 
    1.596  -  2022-06-03 01:24:52.061  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt > D:\test\test2.txt | test2.txt
    1.950  -  2022-06-03 01:24:54.011  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-03 01:24:54.011  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit: fRefreshDoneManually_1

  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2.971  -  2022-06-03 01:24:56.982  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-03 01:24:56.982  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2

[admin]

If it works with XYcopy but not with TeraCopy, well, hard to say what TeraCopy does and what not.

Exit: fRefreshDoneManually_1 ... this should save unnecessary work. When third party apps are involved we can get into a race condition where this backfires. Difficult to control.

Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2 ... is this relevant here? Is all this happening on the 2nd pane?

[Quaraxkad]

I'm only using single-pane windows, so I guess anything about Pane 2 is irrelevant.

I didn't test with XYcopy, but to remove TeraCopy from the equation, I've done another test:
While watching the test folder in XYplorer, I ran the following in a command line:
D:\test>echo >a.txt
D:\test>del a.txt
a.txt is created, it immediately shows in XY, then deleted, and immediately disappears from XY.

D:\test>echo >b.txt
D:\test>move b.txt v:\
1 file(s) moved.
b.txt is created, it immediately shows in XY, then moved and immediately disappears from XY.

Then I created a new text file with Ctrl+Shift+N in XY, and name it c.txt, and run the folowing command:
D:\test>del c.txt
The file remains in XY until manually refreshed.

Then I created a new text file with Ctrl+Shift+N in XY, and name it d.txt, and run the following command:
D:\test>move d.txt v:\
1 file(s) moved.
The file remains in XY until manually refreshed.

Debug log of the above tests:

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XYplorer 23.10.0028  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.675  -  2022-06-04 11:47:52
==============================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-06-04 11:46:30.374  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 25 | D:\test
        1  -  2022-06-04 11:46:30.375  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 25 (0x19) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    6.871  -  2022-06-04 11:46:37.246  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 11:46:37.246  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   22.032  -  2022-06-04 11:46:59.278  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 25 | D:\test
        1  -  2022-06-04 11:46:59.279  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 25 (0x19) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   10.624  -  2022-06-04 11:47:09.903  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 11:47:09.903  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    7.263  -  2022-06-04 11:47:17.166  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt >  | 
    1.676  -  2022-06-04 11:47:18.842  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt > D:\test\c.txt | c.txt
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    7.622  -  2022-06-04 11:47:26.464  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 11:47:26.464  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit: fRefreshDoneManually_1

  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   10.328  -  2022-06-04 11:47:36.792  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt >  | 
      719  -  2022-06-04 11:47:37.511  -MN  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: D:\test\New &Text File.txt | New &Text File.txt > D:\test\d.txt | d.txt
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    5.826  -  2022-06-04 11:47:43.337  -MN  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 11:47:43.337  -MN  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit: fRefreshDoneManually_1

Testing further back betas, creating a file in XY and then deleting it in a command line, 23.00.0204 auto-refreshes immediately:

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XYplorer 23.00.0204  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.675  -  2022-06-04 12:08:48
==============================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-06-04 12:08:41.116  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 12:08:41.116  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      269  -  2022-06-04 12:08:41.385  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: D:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      909  -  2022-06-04 12:08:42.294  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: D:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > D:\test\test.txt | test.txt
  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2.578  -  2022-06-04 12:08:44.872  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 12:08:44.872  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      308  -  2022-06-04 12:08:45.180  ---  tmrDelay, Path=D:\test\, lDelayedActionOrig=15, CanR=True
        0  -  2022-06-04 12:08:45.180  ---  RefreshPane 1, flags=0

In 23.00.0205 the file stays until manually refreshed.

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XYplorer 23.00.0205  -  Windows 11 Professional, 64-bit, Release 2009, Build 22000.675  -  2022-06-04 12:09:50
==============================================================================================================

        0  -  2022-06-04 12:09:36.914  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 12:09:36.914  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit1: IsRenaming
  Exit2: path not listed in Pane 2
      254  -  2022-06-04 12:09:37.168  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_CREATE: D:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt >  | 
      987  -  2022-06-04 12:09:38.155  ---  ShellNotify: SHCNE_RENAMEITEM: D:\test\New Text File.txt | New Text File.txt > D:\test\test.txt | test.txt
    1.891  -  2022-06-04 12:09:40.046  ---  WatchDir IN: 0 | 1 | D:\test
        0  -  2022-06-04 12:09:40.046  ---  WatchDir OUT: Change detected [Pane 1]: Type 1 (0x1) | 
  Exit: fRefreshDoneManually_1

[admin]

Alright, thanks for testing this, I'll look into it later.