XYPlorer slow...cleanup tools?

[chumbo]

Hi,
My XYPlorer has been running slower and slower in recent times. Slow to start, slow to open folders, refresh,...and with the occasional crash as well. Is there some utility in XYPlorer to 'clean up' the app, to make it run faster? Or any idea what might be the cause otherwise?

On a possibly related topic, because of the above problem, to be safe I did my first backup of the Application Data Folder and was surprised to find that while almost every folder or file was very small as I'd expect, I did have a 700Mb 'Thumbnails' folder?! What is it, can I shrink it some how?
Thanks!

[highend]

Are XYplorer.exe and XYcopy.exe excluded in your Antivirus / Security tool(s)?

Post the result after executing this script command as well:

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text get("loadtimes");

You can delete the contents of that thumbnail folder it you don't want permanent thumbnails
And turn this off if you don't like the behavior:
Configuration | Preview | Thumbnails | Cache thumbnails on disk

[chumbo]

I don't have any addon AV, just Microsoft Windows Defender...is that a known issue, should I exclude XYplorer from it?
Thumbnails...it's exactly what the name implies? cache of photos & videos screenshot I've viewed in XY? I might delete it or not if the size bothers me but I just wanted to know if it could be a possible reason why XY is slow?

Here's the script result:

• XY ver: XYplorer 17.40.0000
  OS: Windows 10, 64-bit
  Loaded: 2018-02-02 11:44:26 in 1,059 ms
  
  0 ms: 119 ms - Start Load
  119 ms: 17 ms - Init Language
  136 ms: 21 ms - Load Language
  157 ms: 9 ms - Load Settings
  166 ms: 1 ms - Init Custom File Icons
  167 ms: 15 ms - Init Controls
  182 ms: 38 ms - Init Graphics
  220 ms: 10 ms - Init Tabs
  230 ms: 22 ms - Create Info Panel
  252 ms: 31 ms - Set Interface Font
  283 ms: 18 ms - Init Panes
  301 ms: 0 ms - Init Tree
  301 ms: 0 ms - Add Spec Folders
  301 ms: 3 ms - Add Drives
  304 ms: 4 ms - Exist Drive I:\
  308 ms: 3 ms - Exist Drive J:\
  311 ms: 4 ms - Exist Drive L:\
  315 ms: 4 ms - Exist Drive M:\
  319 ms: 12 ms - Exist Drive N:\
  331 ms: 2 ms - Add Portable Devices
  333 ms: 0 ms - Init Start Path
  333 ms: 7 ms - Tab Icons
  340 ms: 1 ms - Load Catalog
  341 ms: 13 ms - Load Tags
  354 ms: 61 ms - Load Folder Size Cache
  415 ms: 455 ms - Load Maxi Tree
  870 ms: 0 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
  870 ms: 6 ms - Init UDC and KS
  876 ms: 9 ms - Load This Pane
  885 ms: 4 ms - Load Other Pane
  889 ms: 17 ms - Layout Window
  906 ms: 0 ms - Layout Catalog
  906 ms: 17 ms - Layout List
  923 ms: 45 ms - Show Window
  968 ms: 0 ms - Layout Catalog
  968 ms: 90 ms - Layout List
  1,058 ms: 1 ms - Init Menus
  1,059 ms: - Load Done
  
  MaxiTree: Rows=1598, Nodes=1598, Expanded=99, Mapped Drives=2
  Remember Tree State: Yes (45 stored paths)
  Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
  Pane 1: Items=16/16, Pane 2: Items=16/16, Catalog: Items=8

[highend]

should I exclude XYplorer from it?

XYplorer.exe AND XYcopy.exe

cache of photos & videos screenshot I've viewed in XY?

Of photos, not video screenshots

415 ms: 455 ms - Load Maxi Tree
MaxiTree: Rows=1598, Nodes=1598, Expanded=99, Mapped Drives=2

Nearly half a second because of the huge tree...

Exclude both .exes from within MS Defender and reduce the tree -> Slowness should be gone

[jupe]

I don't have any addon AV, just Microsoft Windows Defender...is that a known issue, should I exclude XYplorer from it?

For instructions on how:
https://www.xyplorer.com/faq-topic.php?id=mse

[chumbo]

WOW! Massive difference with the Defender exclusions! Thanks!

About the Tree....how do i go about reducing it without changing my entire HD folder structures??

[highend]

E.g. use a minitree instead and only show those items that you need constant access to
and if this is not wanted, live with the current situation. Displaying 1,5k items takes a few milliseconds...

[chumbo]

Mini Tree...first time I've tried it, awesome, much better, thanks!

[admin]

WOW! Massive difference with the Defender exclusions! Thanks!

About the Tree....how do i go about reducing it without changing my entire HD folder structures??

Collapse some large folders that you currently don't use.

Or, if you don't need it, simply untick this:
Configuration | General | Tree and List | Tree | Remember state of tree

[jupe]

Anyone got any suggestions for me?

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 18.70.0006
OS:     	Windows 10, 64-bit
Loaded: 	2018-02-03 01:30:35 in 17,275 ms

     0 ms:      73 ms - Start Load
    73 ms:      19 ms - Init Language
    92 ms:      13 ms - Load Language
   105 ms:       8 ms - Load Settings
   113 ms:      66 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   179 ms:      10 ms - Init Controls
   189 ms:      27 ms - Init Graphics
   216 ms:       9 ms - Init Tabs
   225 ms:      14 ms - Create Info Panel
   239 ms:      28 ms - Set Interface Font
   267 ms:      19 ms - Init Panes
   286 ms:       0 ms - Init Tree
   286 ms:       1 ms - Add Spec Folders
   287 ms:       0 ms - Add Links Folder
   287 ms:       0 ms - Add Desktop Folder
   287 ms:       0 ms - Add Documents Folder
   287 ms:       0 ms - Add Downloads Folder
   287 ms:       0 ms - Add User Folder
   287 ms:       1 ms - Drives To Array
   288 ms:       6 ms - Add Drives
   294 ms:       1 ms - Add Portable Devices
   295 ms:       0 ms - Init Start Path
   295 ms:     434 ms - Tab Icons
   729 ms:      10 ms - Load Tags
   739 ms:       1 ms - Load Folder Size Cache
   740 ms:  14,177 ms - Go Start Path
14,917 ms:       9 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
14,926 ms:       4 ms - Init UDC and KS
14,930 ms:   2,057 ms - Load This Pane
16,987 ms:      34 ms - Load Other Pane
17,021 ms:      24 ms - Layout Window
17,045 ms:       0 ms - Layout Catalog
17,045 ms:     157 ms - Layout List
17,202 ms:      34 ms - Show Window
17,236 ms:       0 ms - Layout Catalog
17,236 ms:      36 ms - Layout List
17,272 ms:       3 ms - Init Menus
17,275 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=13, Nodes=17, Expanded=2, Mapped Drives=2
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=26/84, Network, Pane 2: Items=4/11, Catalog: Items=1

[highend]

A network related path in a tab or a mapped network drive in the tree...

Check the usual suspects:
Configuration | General | Controls and More | Network | Assume that servers are available
Configuration | General | Controls and More | Network | Pre-check availability of servers
Configuration | General | Controls and More | Network | Cache network servers

[jupe]

Yeah I figured the only culprit could be my slow NAS because I have a SSD as my system drive so it's never really a bottleneck, but on startup XY doesn't browse to a network location anyway it just says not available until I refresh or change location, so I didn't think it should slow it down that much.

Anyway I have no complaints and didn't mean to waste your time answering, I was just showing the OP he isn't in too bad a shape.

My current settings when the test was run:

[admin]

I'd say everything over 1 sec start time is being in a bad shape with XYplorer. I will try to increase the resolution of "Go Start Path" to narrow down the problem.

[jupe]

I didn't mean to drag you into making changes, if you are getting involved I should add that it is only slow on initial boot, subsequent loading times are more like this:

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XY ver: 	XYplorer 18.70.0006
OS:     	Windows 10, 64-bit
Loaded: 	2018-02-03 03:46:58 in 742 ms

     0 ms:      67 ms - Start Load
    67 ms:      18 ms - Init Language
    85 ms:      13 ms - Load Language
    98 ms:       8 ms - Load Settings
   106 ms:      65 ms - Init Custom File Icons
   171 ms:       9 ms - Init Controls
   180 ms:      27 ms - Init Graphics
   207 ms:       6 ms - Init Tabs
   213 ms:      14 ms - Create Info Panel
   227 ms:      19 ms - Set Interface Font
   246 ms:      13 ms - Init Panes
   259 ms:       0 ms - Init Tree
   259 ms:       0 ms - Add Spec Folders
   259 ms:       0 ms - Add Links Folder
   259 ms:       0 ms - Add Desktop Folder
   259 ms:       0 ms - Add Documents Folder
   259 ms:       0 ms - Add Downloads Folder
   259 ms:       0 ms - Add User Folder
   259 ms:       2 ms - Drives To Array
   261 ms:       5 ms - Add Drives
   266 ms:       2 ms - Add Portable Devices
   268 ms:       0 ms - Init Start Path
   268 ms:      58 ms - Tab Icons
   326 ms:       5 ms - Load Tags
   331 ms:       0 ms - Load Folder Size Cache
   331 ms:     148 ms - Go Start Path
   479 ms:      15 ms - Init Custom Toolbar Buttons
   494 ms:       5 ms - Init UDC and KS
   499 ms:      45 ms - Load This Pane
   544 ms:       9 ms - Load Other Pane
   553 ms:       7 ms - Layout Window
   560 ms:       0 ms - Layout Catalog
   560 ms:     145 ms - Layout List
   705 ms:      16 ms - Show Window
   721 ms:       0 ms - Layout Catalog
   721 ms:      19 ms - Layout List
   740 ms:       2 ms - Init Menus
   742 ms:            - Load Done

MaxiTree: Rows=13, Nodes=17, Expanded=2, Mapped Drives=2
Check Existence of Subfolders in Tree: Yes
Pane 1: Items=26/89, Network, Pane 2: Items=4/11, Catalog: Items=1

But if I have fully shut down the computer the first time it is launched is very noticeably slow, and I am of course sure to wait until my computers startup tasks are well and truly finished, but like I said, I have no worries about it.

[admin]

Well, I probably cannot make it any faster. Network is a bitch. But I'm just curious to see where exactly the time is spent. Next version might shed a little more light.