Great suggestions for xyplorer - please reply all

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theUnamed
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Great suggestions for xyplorer - please reply all

Post by theUnamed »

Every other feature about xyplorer is fantastic and a great job has been perfomed on it, although I would like to share my suggestions (they are in no special order, please read)


1. A pop-up on audio/video files - the popup should display id3 metadata of the file _example_http://i15.tinypic.com/4zod8nq.png

2. The INFO PANEL should be Draggable, I would like to be able to place the info panel to the left hand side like what I can do in xPlorer2 or CubicExplorer. For this the INFO PANEL would have mini tabs for each of the same options in the common INFO PANEL. Example of what I mean_http://i11.tinypic.com/4qro5kp.png

3. Tab bar should have a size and width ALSO each tabs can be set a minimum to maximum size width - this would be good.

4. Tabs should have a pointer/arrow when being moved left and right.

5. Tabs can be set to all have a particular colour.

6. Tabs should also have a little close button

7. Custom skins support, so we can make our own skins and share them on this forum/website.

8. In view > current tab > views _ where is the 'large icons' and small icons option (I don't mean thumbnails).

9. Option to remove this type of permanent 'auto arrange' and 'align' that I see - but only per session (this would be easier 'per session'). This is what I mean_see_image_ http://i19.tinypic.com/4v6vcqo.png

10. Add a transparency effect to xyplorer, like what can be done in CubicExplorer 0.8 + , example here-- http://i18.tinypic.com/5zod2ma.png

12. NEW FEATURE - Tabs can have the option to be set "multi-row" like what can be done in FireFox extension called Tab Mix Plus ; very beautiful, see this attached image for inspiration (please add this to xyplorer in options)--- take a look at the below image
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Post by serendipity »

1. Already there, go to configuration>file info tips and enable mp3 tootips.

2. The XY infopanel cannot be made smaller if I understand it right, because of its many options and limited screen resolution we have.

3. How would it be more useful? explain.

4. It does show the insertion position (arrow/pointer) when you drag a tab left or right.

5. I remember this wish sometime back, i guess its being considered. not sure.

6. Maybe you know that to close tab one can use: middle-click, double click, shift-click, ctrl+w. To me its a waste of space.

7. I know skins are pretty looking. Since XY uses native skin, you still can skin your shell. XY's idealogy is to keep it simple.

8. There is no large icons option.

9. An option to rearrange files is coming (I guess 'Drop stacks'), but realign i am not sure.

10. How is it useful?

11. You missed the 11th wish. :P

12. If you would remove the close buttons from you screenshot, you might need just one row. :P . Just kidding. In browser one can think of having so many tabs as you have showed. But while managing files? personally i dont need multiple rows. But maybe DON likes it.

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serendipity wrote:1. Already there, go to configuration>file info tips and enable mp3 tootips.

2. The XY infopanel cannot be made smaller if I understand it right, because of its many options and limited screen resolution we have.

3. How would it be more useful? explain.

4. It does show the insertion position (arrow/pointer) when you drag a tab left or right.

5. I remember this wish sometime back, i guess its being considered. not sure.

6. Maybe you know that to close tab one can use: middle-click, double click, shift-click, ctrl+w. To me its a waste of space.

7. I know skins are pretty looking. Since XY uses native skin, you still can skin your shell. XY's idealogy is to keep it simple.

8. There is no large icons option.

9. An option to rearrange files is coming (I guess 'Drop stacks'), but realign i am not sure.

10. How is it useful?

11. You missed the 11th wish. :P

12. If you would remove the close buttons from you screenshot, you might need just one row. :P . Just kidding. In browser one can think of having so many tabs as you have showed. But while managing files? personally i dont need multiple rows. But maybe DON likes it.
thanks for your reply, I apreciate. I would like to comment again:

1. I got the tool tips to work for mp3 :) They were not showing up because I had selected 'show tip when hoevering file icon' so It shows nice info tip now :)

2. I still would want the INFO PANEL to be draggable and placed either left/right of the interface (I would put mine right), Yes I still recogn it can be done if automatically some parts of the INFO PANEL were removed when removing excpt for the image preview - I know this may sound silly - on first impression of xyplorer I thought I could simply move that info panel to same location where the catalog is on the bottom right. Please developers consider this feature and work with it.

Transparency Effect - Why not? It would make a nice option for if I want to see program other interfaces in the background or the desktop, transparency is should not be a hard feature to implement, I have seen this in many similar program's - it just adds a nice option.

3. - TABS CAN BE SET A WIDTH - more useful to me so that I can distinguish each tab better, please look at that multi-row image again I snapped of FireFox - that beign my point exactly. Also Tabs in xyplorer should have an outline; this would better disnguish tabs too.

5. About 'tab colouring' would be nice still but I am not after this one as much as the other features.

I also would like the 'multi row' tab feature really much (I am not saying as default new feature, I am saying as an optional new feature) as visibly I find it very straightforward, set to a particular width because I least like just a single row of tabs especially when I open up like between 35 and 35 (single row not good enough) - please comment further

Is the main developer around I would lik to hear something from him/her

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rearrange files is coming (I guess 'Drop stacks'), but realign i am not sure
Please also explain 'drop stacks', is it similar 'alignment'

because to un-allign my files like what can be done in Windows Explorer would be great -

This image shows what I want to do with files and folders (un-allign)
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If the folder tree/list were re-alligned upon dragging the INFO PANEL to the right then that would be cool too, I just find viewing INFO information to an either right/left direction better although some people may be happy with xyplorer default

Please see image I made in png format http://i18.tinypic.com/3zlv9k6.png

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Post by serendipity »

BTW, I am not a developer here, just an user. The ONLY developer is called Don.

For the argument sake:

InfoPanel: I understand that ergonomics in a software is important too, like some options for left handers etc. But in my understanding XYplorer is trying to add some usability things first before it will even consider optional things like this. Come on look this roadmap: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?t=830
wouldnt you want to have more new features than more newer options to do the same thing? This is my only argument, unless something is so wrongly placed in XY that every user hates it.
BTW lets wait for Don to speakup.

Transparency: Sorry, i dont want to bug you. I dont get it, why do you want to see the programs below or the desktop? I agree it is surely cool and good looking. But usability?

Tabs: I guess tab coloring will help you distinguish better (BTW there is already an option to change tab colors of active and inactive tab. go to tools>config>color and change color of tabheaders), so tab width has no additional value. Taboutline: :? mine already has a proper outline. which outline do you mean? multirow: Lets wait for Don here.

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A couple of comments on various bits and items:
a) You said "developers" in one place...there is only ONE and that's Don!
b) Close tab button is something that was discussed recently in another thread...
c) Why on earth would anyone want to have files splattered all over the place as shown in 'un-align'? :? Managing files is a very orderly process and XY thus keeps things in a neat and tidy manner...
d) I also just don't see how having that many tabs makes things better! How one can be currently working on that many tasks at the same time is beyond me...I max out at about 5-6 tabs myself...

Remember, each file manager product is unique, so trying to make XY look like all the others doesn't make sense to me...yes, there are features that should be in all of them, but some listed in your original post seem to be things that would not be used by many users, so the cost/benefit ratio is just not practical, IMHO.

There are a number of items on the roadmap that, we as long time users (plus Don), have determined would be of the greatest benefit to all, so they are on the "to-do" list...

I'll also have to admit that having a new member of the forum give such a lengthy wish list is not what I consider the best manners...sorry...just my opinion.
Still spending WAY TOO much time here! But it's such a pleasure helping XY be a treasure!
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theUnamed wrote:Every other feature about xyplorer is fantastic and a great job has been perfomed on it, although I would like to share my suggestions...
I saw your list but you haven't seen mine! :) Mine is longer and better. :P Note: A lack of ideas is not my problem. Not even a lack of good ideas! If I have a problem at all then it's the 1-dimensionality of time. Working on it... :wink:
Tip for future wishes: Generally I appreciate one serious good wish more than a list of quicky-licky-gimmick-ideas. Am I rude? Well, you were pushing me not only in your post but even by PM to respond to your little list!

That's all I have to add to the answers you already got by forum members.

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admin wrote:Mine is longer and better.
Yeah, isn't every man saying exactly that... :lol:

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ahh fuck all of you


including the admin with, yes a "BIG" list. It's fine you may cancel my registration at this shitty forum. :) :)

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Ahahaha - cya :D
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Post by j_c_hallgren »

:shock: Gee...it looks like someone got a bit upset! Well, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I tried to be as polite as I could in saying that, while we really do appeciate input from new users, starting off with a long list of requests within first two days on a forum is not the best Netiquette from my experience...

Especially when some are just for visual effects that don't appear, IMHO, to have any real positive impacts on usability for a number of users...

However, the danger of getting a new user here into a :evil: mood is the possibility of negative feedback on other sites, which can happen, so we need to be on lookout for that and counteract when possible.

I've found a such a warm and welcoming group of forum regulars here, including Don, that I'm (as my sig says) here too much maybe!
Still spending WAY TOO much time here! But it's such a pleasure helping XY be a treasure!
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theUnamed wrote:

ahh love all of you


including the admin with, yes a "BIG" list. It's fine you may cancel my registration at this shitty forum. :) :)
Great, and thanks for the hate reviews you are going to write now! They will just increase my notability... :P
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theUnamed wrote:because to un-allign my files like what can be done in Windows Explorer would be great -

This image shows what I want to do with files and folders (un-allign)
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Well, my friend, I do not totally dislike this suggestion! Something like this was on my mind some days ago when speaking about tag clouds. I would not add it for any folder (because it costs memory) but maybe for drop stacks. For me personally, using the 2nd dimension for arranging data is a big plus! I think I'm not alone...

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admin wrote:Well, my friend, I do not totally dislike this suggestion! Something like this was on my mind some days ago when speaking about tag clouds. I would not add it for any folder (because it costs memory) but maybe for drop stacks. For me personally, using the 2nd dimension for arranging data is a big plus! I think I'm not alone...
Well I'm not here on that one, I don't see any use for it myself.

But, I believe the 11th wish was Dual Pane.... :mrgreen: ;)
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