[17.00.0101] Sorted column reverts to sort by name

[sheeeple]

I use a scripted custom column to sort my manga(comics) collection so that series that have unread chapters appear at the top.
The sorting is lost however everytime I use the commands Back (#527) or Forward (#528) to go into the folder(D:\Manga) containing the scripted column.
Up(#523) works fine though, the sorted column is NOT set to Name.

Custom column script is set to trigger on browse.
FVS settings:
D:\Manga. (subfolders not incl.) -> details view, sort by :d-15 (primary), sort by: Date Modified (secondary), all boxes checked for applied settings
D:\Manga\* -> details view, sort by name desc, all boxes check for applied settings
D:\Manga\*\* -> Thumbs view, sort by name asc, all boxes check for applied settings

What it should look like:

my desired sorting scheme

before.jpg (62.41 KiB) Viewed 3590 times

But after using back or forward it looks like this:

do not want

after.jpg (59.15 KiB) Viewed 3590 times

This is what the subfolder looks like:

subfolder sample.jpg (30.7 KiB) Viewed 3578 times

^ From here if I use Up(#523) I get before.jpg.
If I use Back(#527) I get after.jpg

my script:

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$items = listfolder(<cc_item>);
    $limit = 3; // Last 3 items only
    foreach ($item, $items, "|", "r") { 
		
        // Labelled == read; Unlabelled == unread
	    $prop = property("#Label", $item); 
            if ($prop == "") {
                return "✱"; 
	    }

	    $limit--;
	    if ($limit == 0) {
	        break; 
 	    }
    }
    return;

So I have to add this bit which I think adds to execution time:

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if (compare(get("Sort"), "Name,d") == 0) { 
     sortby ":d-17", "d", 0;
     sortby "Modified", "d", 1;
}

[bdeshi]

Why not apply an FVS?

0. open the folder and sort by custom column.
1. view > folder view settings > save.
2. view > folder view settings > edit > [X] sort order. (and include subfolders if preferred.)

[sheeeple]

Why not apply an FVS?

0. open the folder and sort by custom column.
1. view > folder view settings > save.
2. view > folder view settings > edit > [X] sort order. (and include subfolders if preferred.)

I already have FVS set up. I've also mess around with it (auto-save/no auto-save, w/ sort order, w/o sort order) but it doesn't help . It's almost like the list is sorted before the custom column is loaded so it default to sort by name.

[bdeshi]

Hmm, try setting the custom column's Trigger to Browse.

[sheeeple]

Hmm, try setting the custom column's Trigger to Browse.

Sorry I left out too much detail but It's already set to trigger at 'Browse'. 'List' trigger doesn't work because I need to evaluate all the folders at once to sort them properly.

[admin]

I think it's related to this feature:

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v8.80.0013 - 2010-01-08 22:33
    + History: Now the sort order is stored with History. If you return-
      by-history to a location you have visited during the current 
      session, the location's previous sort order is restored.
      This history-bound sort order is NOT remembered between sessions.

I don't think this has been much discussed here. Maybe now is a good time. So, is this a good feature? I could easily reproduce the issue of the OP and I have to admit I could as easily feel the same confusion. I tend to remove the feature, or at least make it optional. OTOH, File Explorer seem to work like this as well (Win 8.1). Hmmm...

[Filehero]

I tend to remove the feature, or at least make it optional.

+1
For me sort order is part of the view not the data (aka location).

[admin]

For me too. That history feature is history now.

[sheeeple]

Fixed in .0104. Thank you very much Mr. admin

[LittleBiG]

I think it's related to this feature:

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v8.80.0013 - 2010-01-08 22:33
    + History: Now the sort order is stored with History. If you return-
      by-history to a location you have visited during the current 
      session, the location's previous sort order is restored.
      This history-bound sort order is NOT remembered between sessions.

I don't think this has been much discussed here. Maybe now is a good time. So, is this a good feature? I could easily reproduce the issue of the OP and I have to admit I could as easily feel the same confusion. I tend to remove the feature, or at least make it optional. OTOH, File Explorer seem to work like this as well (Win 8.1). Hmmm...

Actually, there was a certain logic in it. However, it caused me to have to follow a rule: if I changed the sort order in a subfolder, I had to use "go back" if i wanted the original order of the parent folder, and "go up" if I wanted to keep the new sort order.

[admin]

Yep, I'm aware it could be useful. I decided against it anyway.

[TheQwerty]

I was wary of this change at the time but thought I'd give it a chance - well today I discovered a case where this change is very frustrating.

I have FVS configured to show my Downloads folder sorted by Date because I generally want to access the most recent items. Occasionally I clean out this folder and when I do that I prefer sorting by Name.

Previously, I was able enter sub-folders if need be, and go back to my Name sorted downloads with relative ease and this created a nice flow.

Now the FVS gets applied when I go back completely destroying that zen.

I think my only workaround now is to temporarily disable FVS - but this kind of sucks because:
1) It adds to my cognitive load the fact that I must remember to re-enable it.
2) It means a feature that I never had a need to disable previously now needs more frequently changed.
3) To relieve both I have to relinquish precious toolbar space to the FVS button.


Can we please restore the functionality that had been working with few complaints for the last 6 years as a tweak or new option (Configuration | Refresh, Icons, History | History | History retains sort order)?

[sheeeple]

I was wary of this change at the time but thought I'd give it a chance - well today I discovered a case where this change is very frustrating.

I have FVS configured to show my Downloads folder sorted by Date because I generally want to access the most recent items. Occasionally I clean out this folder and when I do that I prefer sorting by Name.

Previously, I was able enter sub-folders if need be, and go back to my Name sorted downloads with relative ease and this created a nice flow.

Now the FVS gets applied when I go back completely destroying that zen.

I think my only workaround now is to temporarily disable FVS - but this kind of sucks because:
1) It adds to my cognitive load the fact that I must remember to re-enable it.
2) It means a feature that I never had a need to disable previously now needs more frequently changed.
3) To relieve both I have to relinquish precious toolbar space to the FVS button.


Can we please restore the functionality that had been working with few complaints for the last 6 years as a tweak or new option (Configuration | Refresh, Icons, History | History | History retains sort order)?

I do that for my downloads folder too. What I did is I separated the FVS for the Downloads folder from its subfolders and then have both set to auto-save.
In my case I have fvs for:
D:\Downloads (auto-save)
and
D:\Downloads\* (auto-save, incl. sub-folders)
Works for me most of the time.

[admin]

Now the FVS gets applied when I go back completely destroying that zen.

Ok, ok. I'm not going to be the one who destroyed zen.

Gonna add a setting...

[TheQwerty]

Now the FVS gets applied when I go back completely destroying that zen.

Ok, ok. I'm not going to be the one who destroyed zen.

Gonna add a setting...

Zen restored - thank you, Don!