I want to use XYplorer as a library cataloging program

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highend wrote:There aren't any complete scripts that do all the necessary work atm (correct tagging + searching). They need to be written... So no, no step by step instructions.
I truly love the idea, so I am waiting with baited breath!! It will be wonderful to implement XY this way to catalog my collections.

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so I am waiting with baited breath!!
Waiting for what? I normally write scripts for tasks that I'm in need of myself or for things that have been requested a lot. I do not tag files at all and enhanced cataloging features have never been requested by the majority of forum users.

I only showed a picture of how a tagging dialog could look like and some lines for scripts that the custom columns would need + how this could be done by abusing one of the extra columns...
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highend wrote:
so I am waiting with baited breath!!
Waiting for what? I normally write scripts for tasks that I'm in need of myself or for things that have been requested a lot. I do not tag files at all and enhanced cataloging features have never been requested by the majority of forum users.

I only showed a picture of how a tagging dialog could look like and some lines for scripts that the custom columns would need...
I see. Would you be willing to write the scripts for a reasonable fee?

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That depends on how urgent this is. It takes a while to make such things (rather) bullet proof (and it should be when you're messing with the tag database) :)

My condition in any case is: I can make the code public (to this forum) afterwards so that other users can benefit from it.

If thats ok for you, contact me via pm if you want to make an offer.
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highend - Something is wrong with my inbox here and my PMs are not sending to you. Please email me directly: woodr2011 at outlook dot com.

Thank you!

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Don wrote about "Load" and "Save".
Which reminded me of an experiment I undertook 16 months ago and never completed.
I went back to it and found the problem which had bugged me.
So here it is.
TagChange.zip
(1.35 KiB) Downloaded 264 times
I never found that i needed it but maybe useful in this instance.
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Ryan wrote:highend - Something is wrong with my inbox here and my PMs are not sending to you. Please email me directly: woodr2011 at outlook dot com.

Thank you!
Ryan, just curious: Did it work out for you?

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admin wrote:
Ryan wrote:highend - Something is wrong with my inbox here and my PMs are not sending to you. Please email me directly: woodr2011 at outlook dot com.

Thank you!
Ryan, just curious: Did it work out for you?
Hi Don: Yes, very much so!

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totmad1 wrote:Don wrote about "Load" and "Save".
Which reminded me of an experiment I undertook 16 months ago and never completed.
I went back to it and found the problem which had bugged me.
So here it is.
TagChange.zip
I never found that i needed it but maybe useful in this instance.
Hi Totmad - Could you give me a summation of what this script does before I apply it? Thanks so much for sharing :)

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Hi Ryan
It is a script to "Save" the present "tag,dat" and associated "taglist" to a separate
zip and ini files. Then "make new" empty "tag,dat" and "taglist".
Finally to give you a choice to "Load". There is also 2 final items to allow you to see
what category you have loaded or taglist.
It was my idea that you could keep your general tagging in one and either one or
individual dat's for your cataloging. This was not in any way a final answer to your
request.
I am also waiting in anticipation to see highends script.
I have my own thoughts and am at the moment reading all I have on custom columns,
BUT i know that I don't come anywhere near highends standard.
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totmad1 wrote:Hi Ryan
It is a script to "Save" the present "tag,dat" and associated "taglist" to a separate
zip and ini files. Then "make new" empty "tag,dat" and "taglist".
Finally to give you a choice to "Load". There is also 2 final items to allow you to see
what category you have loaded or taglist.
It was my idea that you could keep your general tagging in one and either one or
individual dat's for your cataloging. This was not in any way a final answer to your
request.
I am also waiting in anticipation to see highends script.
I have my own thoughts and am at the moment reading all I have on custom columns,
BUT i know that I don't come anywhere near highends standard.
Hi Totmad - That sounds excellent. I ultimately hired Highend to write an XY executable script for my Calibre program, which has fully customizable/searchable columns. I may end up having him create the script for the "abused" column in XY at some point, but I struggled a bit with the notion of not being able to sort everything visibly by separate columns for Author, Title, Subject, Call Number, etc. The Calibre program allows for this, so that makes the most sense for me at present.

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It was my idea that you could keep your general tagging in one and either one or
individual dat's for your cataloging.
Uhm, I wouldn't go that way... I just did that with a separate tag1.dat file with 1000 files in it. Each file has 20 "tags".
10 custom columns in XY.

An intermediate script that puts the content of the tag1.dat file into a permanent variable (to speed up the access).

A refresh takes 25 seconds until XY has filled all columns and is usable again...

Doing it (rather natively) via the original tag.dat, the same refresh takes 3 seconds.
That's about 8 times faster.
but I struggled a bit with the notion of not being able to sort everything visibly by separate columns for Author, Title, Subject, Call Number, etc.
Ofc this depends a bit on available screen size (in my case 1680 x 1050 (x 2 because of a dual monitor setup)) but without tree and catalog it shouldn't be a major problem to display 10-15 custom columns.
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Hi Highend - If we went with the "abused" column script, how would it be possible to show the tags within that column in a regular XY view along with all other mainstream columns?

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how would it be possible to show the tags within that column in a regular XY view along with all other mainstream columns?
I'm unsure what you mean...

Make a screenshot of how it should look like, please.
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I am asking if it would be possible to have the fields within the abused column appear individually with the other default columns in XY, such as Name, Ext, Size, Type, Modified, Created, etc., so that the information in the fields could be sorted visibly with all the other default columns?

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