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j_c_hallgren wrote:Thus, as I now understand it, what ryanangler is wanting to do is sorta a variant of the "My Documents" scheme, where what shows as 'root' for My Doc's is actually a folder that is some levels deep...
Or making it look like, for example, "C:\WINNT\system32" to be equiv to "C:" so any folder within that can be exploded but one could never go back 'up' to WINNT or higher...and if the desired 'root' folder is even further down the tree, having that unneeded overhead showing could actually be a visual issue...

So...if I follow this scheme correctly, I now can see a use for this myself! As I have this folder ("C:\Inetpub\PRODUCTION\public_html") as entry in Catalog, but having IT show as a 'root' would isolate that as my only entry in tree
This is exactly what I am saying!!! In my case its more like C:\Inetpub\PRODUCTION\clients\bigclient\appversion1\public_html so you can imagine... But im relieved someone else can see this point :)
j_c_hallgren wrote: ...now...would I have a second XY running to do this? That part, maybe not...
If he did it as a context folder option Make Root"/"Show Whole Tree" then a second XY wouldnt be necessary.
j_c_hallgren wrote: would I like to see it as such on a tab? Yes, that makes more sense...ok, so I know the tree is shared, but since we keep moving focus around in tree based on tab, view could be adjusted as well.
I dont think tab would be the answer, because, correct me if im wrong, the plus/minuseses to expand/collapse the tree dont appear in the tabs, only in the left hand pane?

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ryanagler wrote:
j_c_hallgren wrote: would I like to see it as such on a tab? Yes, that makes more sense...ok, so I know the tree is shared, but since we keep moving focus around in tree based on tab, view could be adjusted as well.
I dont think tab would be the answer, because, correct me if im wrong, the plus/minuseses to expand/collapse the tree dont appear in the tabs, only in the left hand pane?
I was simply saying (poorly) that, IMO, tab implementation would definitely be preferable to dual/multiple XY processes...BTW, my two statement parts were connected, in a no/yes, but you isolated them...no problem!...and yes, you are correct about plus/minus thing.
Still spending WAY TOO much time here! But it's such a pleasure helping XY be a treasure!
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j_c_hallgren wrote:tab implementation would definitely be preferable to dual/multiple XY processes...
agreed. but i dont want to be picky, just looking for the basics here :)

Try creating a desktop shortcut, with the Target: "%SystemRoot%\explorer.exe /n, /e, /root, c:\Inetpub\PRODUCTION\public_html"

Doesent that look so clean and peaceful? Mileage may vary depending on how many hours you've had to spend with public_html.

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I almost never use Desktop shortcuts, as they take more steps/movement than other ways (for me) and I have XY running 99.9% of time anyway....plus I have Win Expl going as some functions I do require it...

I could even envison an option in Catalog entry to "open as root" so just by clicking on entry, it would do so...that way you wouldn't have to see rest of tree prior to making it root...that would make it FAR easier than a Desktop shortcut, I believe.
Still spending WAY TOO much time here! But it's such a pleasure helping XY be a treasure!
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j_c_hallgren wrote:I almost never use Desktop shortcuts, as they take more steps/movement than other ways (for me) and I have XY running 99.9% of time anyway....plus I have Win Expl going as some functions I do require it...

I could even envison an option in Catalog entry to "open as root" so just by clicking on entry, it would do so...that way you wouldn't have to see rest of tree prior to making it root...that would make it FAR easier than a Desktop shortcut, I believe.
oh, i completely agree, desktop shortcuts arent the most graceful method. I was just trying to get you to try it out to get a visual of how much easier it is to have such a folder as root.

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Re: changing root target in shortcut?

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admin wrote:
ryanagler wrote:
admin wrote: IF I add this feature, wouldn't it be much easier to have a command in the folders' context menu "Make Root" resp. "Show Whole Tree"?
Absolutely! "Make Root" would be more than perfect!!! Then you could switch back and forth without having multiple instances.
Okay, but don't get too excited. I kind of hardcoded the tree to assume he's complete because I never expected anything else. Changing this is not a simple switch. Other things are on the road first!

Maybe you fall in love with the Catalog in the meantime...
Just wanted to revisit this -- A "make root" context menu option would be great. obviously I purchased XY, otherwise I wouldnt be back here a year later!

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ok, so im still trying to get this functionality going. Also noticed there are others requesting the same thing and refrencing this thread http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic.php?t=2424

Anyway, i tried a workaround with the catalog. It has the potential to work, the only problem is, folders in the catalog don't behave like real folders. i.e. there is no "plus sign" next to catalog folder entries so that when i click on them they expand to show their subfolders. Is this a possibility?

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alternatively, is there a way to "hide" arbitrary drives in the tree and save that as a configuration?

if i could just hide desktop, my documents, c:, and a bunch of others drives I have, then in Windows do:

"net use * \\somemachine\somefolder\somesubfolder"

which would mount that folder as a root drive, adn I could have everything but that drive hidden in the tree?

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ryanagler wrote:alternatively, is there a way to "hide" arbitrary drives in the tree and save that as a configuration?

if i could just hide desktop, my documents, c:, and a bunch of others drives I have, then in Windows do:

"net use * \\somemachine\somefolder\somesubfolder"

which would mount that folder as a root drive, adn I could have everything but that drive hidden in the tree?
Currently not, and chances are small:
- i don't need it
- almost nobody apart from you needs it
- i have lots of other things in the pipeline

:)

never mind

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admin wrote:Currently not, and chances are small
Fair enough on the drive hiding -- but what about A "make root" context menu option? I would much rather be using XY for that instead of Windows Explorer...

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ryanagler wrote:
admin wrote:Currently not, and chances are small
Fair enough on the drive hiding -- but what about A "make root" context menu option? I would much rather be using XY for that instead of Windows Explorer...
That would be a lot of work because XY is fundamentally built around the assumption of a complete tree. Hiding specific drives would be easier to implement than changing the root. But since the demand is so low it would be bloat me thinks.

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admin wrote:That would be a lot of work because XY is fundamentally built around the assumption of a complete tree. Hiding specific drives would be easier to implement than changing the root. But since the demand is so low it would be bloat me thinks.
We know at least one other user, "dgw", is requesting the same, and im sure there are other power users that would love it.

So, what about the final alternative, which would be making it so catalog folder entries would have a "plus" next to them and behave as folders?

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ryanagler wrote:
admin wrote:That would be a lot of work because XY is fundamentally built around the assumption of a complete tree. Hiding specific drives would be easier to implement than changing the root. But since the demand is so low it would be bloat me thinks.
We know at least one other user, "dgw", is requesting the same, and im sure there are other power users that would love it.

So, what about the final alternative, which would be making it so catalog folder entries would have a "plus" next to them and behave as folders?
Not possible. Even less possible than the other two.

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Post by nh »

I signed up just add my voice to Ryanagler's request for the "Make root" or "Explore from here" feature in XY as well.
I sorely miss this in XY and regularly switch to MS Explorer to get this functionality.
Specifically, I use it most on networked drives where I don't want the whole drive tree appearing.
I recall first using this with Win 95 - see Microsoft Windows 95 Power Toys here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/145688

Thanks ....

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nh wrote:I signed up just add my voice to Ryanagler's request for the "Make root" or "Explore from here" feature in XY as well.
I sorely miss this in XY and regularly switch to MS Explorer to get this functionality.
Specifically, I use it most on networked drives where I don't want the whole drive tree appearing.
I recall first using this with Win 95 - see Microsoft Windows 95 Power Toys here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/145688

Thanks ....
Amen to that -- a major part of any developers' work is probaly done on network drives -- in my case I'm almost always working with network folders buried at least seven levels below root.

Compound that by the fact I have 12 other drives mounted (and showing in the tree) and there is simply nothing else that can boost productivity more than the ability to make an arbitrary folder root in Windows Explorer. For me, this one feature in Explorer outweighs all the productivity enhancements of XY combined.

So if there are any more of you out there who need this feature too, please chime in because the XY team doesnt think anyone else besides me (and a couple others) need it.

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