Tab displaying issues

[PeterH]

Oh - much to say...

But can't this be seen by the missing \ (not) following c:

I thought I'd plainly explained my view on that in the post you quoted: It can be seen but may be overlooked more easily...the space makes it hard to not notice...remember that some of us don't have eagle-eye vison so sometimes little things like that can be of more significance.

I'm not sure someone not seeing the missing \ will see the added space?

But ok - played around a bit. Had not selected "Display Folder Name Only". Test: made tabs smaller - text was abbreviated with ... . Still made smaller: Drive disappeared
Hey, this is a wish: it should be possible to keep drive here, too!

OK: changed TabFolderNameOnly to 2. Quite nice, if you often have small tabs.
(In most situations I prefer seeing all and maybe let XY abbreviate. But would like allways to see drive.)

One note: if, in any config, space is too small, abbreviation is by ..., and this needs quite some space. As does (a bit) the space behind c:
So, from me too, the question: is it possible to reduce this by using any "strange" signs, that are easy to recognize, not allowed in filenames, and rather short? (One to replace ": ", the other for "...".) This really could help save some space. Maybe "arrow up" for ": "? I don't know what signs could be available...

Or, instead of ": ", mark the drive by other (background?) color, reverse fore-/background, or so?

...just some ideas...

[admin]

Oh - much to say...

But can't this be seen by the missing \ (not) following c:

I thought I'd plainly explained my view on that in the post you quoted: It can be seen but may be overlooked more easily...the space makes it hard to not notice...remember that some of us don't have eagle-eye vison so sometimes little things like that can be of more significance.

I'm not sure someone not seeing the missing \ will see the added space?

But ok - played around a bit. Had not selected "Display Folder Name Only". Test: made tabs smaller - text was abbreviated with ... . Still made smaller: Drive disappeared
Hey, this is a wish: it should be possible to keep drive here, too!

OK: changed TabFolderNameOnly to 2. Quite nice, if you often have small tabs.
(In most situations I prefer seeing all and maybe let XY abbreviate. But would like allways to see drive.)

One note: if, in any config, space is too small, abbreviation is by ..., and this needs quite some space. As does (a bit) the space behind c:
So, from me too, the question: is it possible to reduce this by using any "strange" signs, that are easy to recognize, not allowed in filenames, and rather short? (One to replace ": ", the other for "...".) This really could help save some space. Maybe "arrow up" for ": "? I don't know what signs could be available...

Or, instead of ": ", mark the drive by other (background?) color, reverse fore-/background, or so?

...just some ideas...

Wait until you see the next version...

[j_c_hallgren]

Wait until you see the next version...

Which has

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v8.70.0009 - 2009-12-06 14:57
    * Configuration | Tabs: Rewrote the customization of the tab 
      captions. Now you have a dropdown "Tab captions" with 3 choices:
        - Full path
        - Folder only
        - Custom
      The last one can be further defined by using the Custom button. 
      While the factory default is
        <drive>: <folder>
      you can do anything that crosses your mind, e.g.
        <folder> (<drive>)
        <folder> on <drive>:
        etc.

And I've defined my custom as "<drive>:~<folder>" which I'd suggested far above...this works GREAT for me! Love it! Thanks SO much!

[zer0]

Now that you've added this custom format, I have a question. I have the format set to 'Folder only'. However, when I name and then un-name a tab, the full path is shown in the header. Is that suppose to happen?

[admin]

Now that you've added this custom format, I have a question. I have the format set to 'Folder only'. However, when I name and then un-name a tab, the full path is shown in the header. Is that suppose to happen?

Correct. Looks like a bug (a very temporary one because on next redraw the correct caption is shown) -- BTW an old one. Has always been like this. Actually I wonder whether it's good as it is: let's you shortly see where you are.

[zer0]

Correct. Looks like a bug (a very temporary one because on next redraw the correct caption is shown) -- BTW an old one. Has always been like this. Actually I wonder whether it's good as it is: let's you shortly see where you are.

Hmm. If un-naming is supposed to bring a tab back to what it was before naming then full path is the wrong thing to show (unless that's the setting). Also, if location of a tab is locked then redraw won't happen unless XY is restarted. Regarding seeing the full location where one is: isn't AB there for that?

[admin]

Correct. Looks like a bug (a very temporary one because on next redraw the correct caption is shown) -- BTW an old one. Has always been like this. Actually I wonder whether it's good as it is: let's you shortly see where you are.

Hmm. If un-naming is supposed to bring a tab back to what it was before naming then full path is the wrong thing to show (unless that's the setting). Also, if location of a tab is locked then redraw won't happen unless XY is restarted. Regarding seeing the full location where one is: isn't AB there for that?

Yes, in the meantime I fixed it already.

[PeterH]

Wait until you see the next version...

On one side not bad, but...
...first tested on topic ("custom"): couldn't do what I want. Tried to use a "very strange" character behind <drive> - but what can I use here? "|" or "~" are not so very strange! Tried to copy/paste some symbol from word, but that didn't work...
...further: shortening tab leads to abbreviation from right to left: very good! But abbreviation still with ..., hiding quite much of text. Would prefer something "strange but shorter" here.

...then bit OT: selected "full path" again. Moderately shortening length of tab E:\Multimedia\Fotos\Nikon was abbreviated to E:\Multimedia\Fotos\Ni... A little bit more shortening lead to E:\Multimedia\F...\Nikon - that seems to be correct.
More shortening deleted char by char beginning left of ... - until ...\Nikon remained. E|Nikon (| as "strange sign") would be better for me.

So priorities (starting with high) for me:
- a "strange sign" to replace ": "
- ability to replace "...", and second other sign for that
(Found ¶ is possible, arrows are not? Looked at times new roman. No idea...)
- ability for full path to shorten E:...Nikon to E|Nikon (or alike), then further abbreviate from right.

(Sorry - sometimes I can't get enough )
At least I hope you can understand what I mean?

[admin]

Wait until you see the next version...

On one side not bad, but...
...first tested on topic ("custom"): couldn't do what I want. Tried to use a "very strange" character behind <drive> - but what can I use here? "|" or "~" are not so very strange! Tried to copy/paste some symbol from word, but that didn't work...
...further: shortening tab leads to abbreviation from right to left: very good! But abbreviation still with ..., hiding quite much of text. Would prefer something "strange but shorter" here.

...then bit OT: selected "full path" again. Moderately shortening length of tab E:\Multimedia\Fotos\Nikon was abbreviated to E:\Multimedia\Fotos\Ni... A little bit more shortening lead to E:\Multimedia\F...\Nikon - that seems to be correct.
More shortening deleted char by char beginning left of ... - until ...\Nikon remained. E|Nikon (| as "strange sign") would be better for me.

So priorities (starting with high) for me:
- a "strange sign" to replace ": "
- ability to replace "...", and second other sign for that
(Found ¶ is possible, arrows are not? Looked at times new roman. No idea...)
- ability for full path to shorten E:...Nikon to E|Nikon (or alike), then further abbreviate from right.

(Sorry - sometimes I can't get enough )
At least I hope you can understand what I mean?

I agree that the Nikon case is not good (but -- contrary to my recent claim -- I do you use Windows native path shortening here and cannot change it easily).
Strange sign: too strange for me (and also controlled by Windows native path shortening).

BTW, pasting an upper unicode char from Word or so into the Custom pattern should work.

[Stefan]

So, did anybody try it??

TabFolderNameOnly=2

...

v8.70.0009 - 2009-12-06 14:57
* Configuration | Tabs: Rewrote the customization of the tab
captions. Now you have a dropdown "Tab captions" with 3 choices:
- Full path
- Folder only
- Custom

Yes, looks good, with share too. Thank you Don.

[PeterH]

I agree that the Nikon case is not good (but -- contrary to my recent claim -- I do you use Windows native path shortening here and cannot change it easily).
Strange sign: too strange for me (and also controlled by Windows native path shortening).

BTW, pasting an upper unicode char from Word or so into the Custom pattern should work.

"Win native path shortening" - ok, would not change that.

But what do you mean with "'upper' unicode char"?

[admin]

But what do you mean with "'upper' unicode char"?

I thought you meant this by:
"Tried to copy/paste some symbol from word, but that didn't work..."

But now I think you were rather talking about a special font. This cannot work of course.

With "'upper' unicode char" I mean double byte characters, typically used for non-european writing systems.

[PeterH]

Yes, äh, no
Sorry - I really am no specialist here.

Yes: I meant copy a (special) character from word - as I can search for those in symbol table.
No: I didn't mean the font for the symbol, just the code.
But: in some way these are related? In symbol table I first have to select "Schriftart" (sorry: german), then maybe Subset.

Now I'm interested for an arrow-up ↑, for example. I find it e.g. in Times New Roman, Subset Pfeile. But those arrows don't show when copied to XY. Though Symbol table shows it's code 2191 of Unicode.
Hey - just tested inserting arrow-up ↑ here in text, and as seen above, it works Why doesn't it in XY? XY just shows a square for every arrow. Hey - if I copy that square from XY into this text, the ↑ is shown again. So inside XY is the code for the arrow, but XY refuses to display it

OK - I'll stop this now and wait for a response. Either I understand something wrong, or XY (here: in the dialog for custom format tab headers) doesn't display all unicode signs?

Or does ...
...hey again: I'm learning? Is this the question if a dbcs code is represented in a character set? So looked for a sign in Verdana (seems to be the char set in XY for this case?) (sorry - not so much possibilities as in TNR) and inserted ∫ to XY that worked

Am I on the right way to enlightment

[nony]

Thanks for custom format.

[admin]

Am I on the right way to enlightment

Yep, looks like. Bon voyage!