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from the drop down list
is it possible ?
the help sais "To delete a particular item from the address store, have it listed in the auto-complete list, then select it using the arrow keys, then press <Del>."
doesnt seem to work or it uses a special language I cant understand

not a biggie but I want to know

Cheers
Calude

Wow, yes. I actually forgot to implement this in the new Address Bar. Will do...

admin wrote:Wow, yes. I actually forgot to implement this in the new Address Bar. Will do...

I even tried to remind you about it: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 184#p27184

TheQwerty wrote:

admin wrote:Wow, yes. I actually forgot to implement this in the new Address Bar. Will do...

I even tried to remind you about it: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 184#p27184

I know, but you did not tell me that it was already a feature before the new address bar! Or do you think I remember every feature I've ever built in? Man, I would be happy if I had the time to use this app!

admin wrote:

TheQwerty wrote:

admin wrote:Wow, yes. I actually forgot to implement this in the new Address Bar. Will do...

I even tried to remind you about it: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 184#p27184

I know, but you did not tell me that it was already a feature before the new address bar! Or do you think I remember every feature I've ever built in? Man, I would be happy if I had the time to use this app!

It's a little more complicated than I thought, so it will be added only after 7.70 is out.

Questions are:
1 - Is DEL a good key for this? It is also used in the Edit box for deletions so there might be conflicts. A solution would be to use DEL for list deletions only of the caret is at the end (where DEL has no effect in an Edit box). But this is dangerous since the caret can easily end up at the end by key repetition on DEL... suddenly you remove a list item when you just wanted to remove some chars.

2 - With mouse hover selections the selected list item can be different from the one displayed in the Edit box. When you now press DEL, did you really want to delete that item currently hovered by the mouse?

A solution might be to impose the following conditions on a list item deletion by DEL:
- edit box caret must be at right end
- edit contents must either be completely selected or completely unselected
- edit contents must be identical to current list item

admin wrote:

admin wrote:

TheQwerty wrote:

admin wrote:Wow, yes. I actually forgot to implement this in the new Address Bar. Will do...

I even tried to remind you about it: http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 184#p27184

I know, but you did not tell me that it was already a feature before the new address bar! Or do you think I remember every feature I've ever built in? Man, I would be happy if I had the time to use this app!

It's a little more complicated than I thought, so it will be added only after 7.70 is out.

Questions are:
1 - Is DEL a good key for this? It is also used in the Edit box for deletions so there might be conflicts. A solution would be to use DEL for list deletions only of the caret is at the end (where DEL has no effect in an Edit box). But this is dangerous since the caret can easily end up at the end by key repetition on DEL... suddenly you remove a list item when you just wanted to remove some chars.

2 - With mouse hover selections the selected list item can be different from the one displayed in the Edit box. When you now press DEL, did you really want to delete that item currently hovered by the mouse?

A solution might be to impose the following conditions on a list item deletion by DEL:
- edit box caret must be at right end
- edit contents must either be completely selected or completely unselected
- edit contents must be identical to current list item

Hmmm too many rules. how about delete with some accelarator?

admin wrote:A solution might be to impose the following conditions on a list item deletion by DEL:
- edit box caret must be at right end
- edit contents must either be completely selected or completely unselected
- edit contents must be identical to current list item

I've not been that much involved lately due to work (and eye surgery again on Oct 9!) but just reading above, it makes good sense, as means that you're not in edit mode on the contents of that entry but in edit mode on the entry itself.

serendipity wrote:Hmmm too many rules. how about delete with some accelarator?

I second that. Why not just use Ctrl-Del? The only downside i see is, that it's not windows standard (i think...) and may not be that obvious that deletion from the list is possible. Therefore it needs to be extra-highlighted in the docs...

Pagat wrote:

serendipity wrote:Hmmm too many rules. how about delete with some accelarator?

I second that. Why not just use Ctrl-Del? The only downside i see is, that it's not windows standard (i think...) and may not be that obvious that deletion from the list is possible. Therefore it needs to be extra-highlighted in the docs...

Ctrl-Del is "delete from caret to line end".

I would prefer a simple DEL for this because it's standard in most browsers. My conditions might be many, but I think they are quite natural.

admin wrote:I would prefer a simple DEL for this because it's standard in most browsers. My conditions might be many, but I think they are quite natural.

I'd agree. However, I'm not so sure on the completely selected one, as I have a feeling that could be confusing. Probably worth trying it before deciding though.

I suspect this problem may be one of the reasons why Firefox defaults to not automatically showing the list unless the cursor is at the end of the edit field.


I also think that most users would find interacting with the list's items via right click context menu very natural. Is that something that would be possible? For now it could include just Copy and Delete commands, but I imagine items like Toggle Favorite, Go To in New Tab, and Go To in New Background Tab would also be useful.

TheQwerty wrote:

admin wrote:I would prefer a simple DEL for this because it's standard in most browsers. My conditions might be many, but I think they are quite natural.

I'd agree. However, I'm not so sure on the completely selected one, as I have a feeling that could be confusing. Probably worth trying it before deciding though.

I suspect this problem may be one of the reasons why Firefox defaults to not automatically showing the list unless the cursor is at the end of the edit field.


I also think that most users would find interacting with the list's items via right click context menu very natural. Is that something that would be possible? For now it could include just Copy and Delete commands, but I imagine items like Toggle Favorite, Go To in New Tab, and Go To in New Background Tab would also be useful.

right click context menu ... hm, that's an idea I did not have yet. Not bad...

About my conditions: You will see that I'm right once you try it... (after 7.70...)