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How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 09 May 2023 02:27
by Surya
Hi,
I added different programs for different file types for being able to chose the opening program by "open with".
But for several Universal Apps I cannot find out how to find the file.
I tried with shortcut on the desktop >properties, I tried with the search in Xyplorer, I tried with the task manager >properties, I tried with FastKeys >Window Informations. I asked google.
All without success.
For example: MusicBee, MusicBrainz Picard, Mp3Tag, Fotos, One Photo Viewer, Kalender, Wetter, Wetter 14 Tage, Prozentrechner,...
(Not all of them are for "open with"-dialog, but also for another program building my own start menu).
How can I find them out?
Hopeful thanks for your help!
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 09 May 2023 17:42
by Surya
In the forum of another software, where I need the answer for this question too, I got a working solution:
https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-t ... indows-10/
It's complicated, but it works- also as "open with".
But: I want to add a caption name & icon, so that I immediately know, which software is meant, when I click "open with".
I have now for One Photo Viewer this:
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"OnePhotoViewer" png;jpg;jpeg>shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App
, but it doesn't show the caption name, instead it shows "shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App".
And
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"OnePhotoViewer|A:\...Icons\Büro\Software-Foren-Webseiten\SW One Photo Viewer.png" png;jpg;jpeg>shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App
Result: Same as above.
And
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"OnePhotoViewer|A:\...Icons\Büro\Software-Foren-Webseiten\SW One Photo Viewer.ico" png;jpg;jpeg>shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App
Result: Same as above.
Where is the mistake??
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 09 May 2023 22:00
by klownboy
I don't use that program but experiment (some more) and modify your Customized File Association to be similar to these examples:
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"OnePhotoViewer|D:\Graphics\Image Eye\Image Eye.exe" png;jpg;jpeg>run """explorer.exe"" shell:appsFolder\Microsoft.Windows.Photos_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App";
"OnePhotoViewer|D:\Graphics\Image Eye\Image Eye.exe" png;jpg;jpeg>openwith "D:\Graphics\IrfanView64\i_view64.exe";
"OnePhotoViewer|D:\Graphics\Image Eye\Image Eye.exe" png;jpg;jpeg>openwith "shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App"
I honestly don't know if any of the above will work with your "shell: apps..." If it works, it may only run the program and not open the image in the program. The first two definitely work for me, at least run the program.
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 10 May 2023 03:50
by Surya
Hello klownboy,
thanks for your answer- but unfortunately your suggestions didn't work...
After editing your suggestions to my wanted picture path & the working "shell:appsFolder\blabla..." there were 2 suggestions just the same, so in the end I had 2 suggestions, not 3:
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"OnePhotoViewer|A:\...Icons\Büro\Software-Foren-Webseiten\One Photo Viewer.png" png;jpg;jpeg>run """explorer.exe"" shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App"
"OnePhotoViewer|A:\...Icons\Büro\Software-Foren-Webseiten\One Photo Viewer.png" png;jpg;jpeg>openwith "shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App"
Both didn't show the caption, didn't show the picture and didn't opened the file.
So I ended up with the same before: Just the
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png;jpg;jpeg>shell:appsFolder\blabla...
At least that opens the file with One Photo Viewer.
Does anybody else have an idea, how to make a caption name + picture possible???
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 10 May 2023 12:46
by klownboy
In your "Caption| icon" try using a "ico" file in lieu of a "png" file. I can't get any "png" files to work for any CFAs and I do not see "png" files listed in help for Customized File Associations for supported icon file types.
Edit: Opening a file in the Universal app will not work. Take a look at the history in XY's forum. You can start the app but you will not get the current file(s) to load in the app. See this thread
viewtopic.php?p=163259#p163259
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 10 May 2023 19:41
by Surya
Hello klownboy,
Edit: Opening a file in the Universal app will not work. Take a look at the history in XY's forum. You can start the app but you will not get the current file(s) to load in the app.
Yes! it works for me. When I write in the "open with":
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png;jpg;jpeg>shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App
, then rightclick on a picture >open with >shell:appsFolder\blablabla, then it opens the One Photo Viewer
with that picture.
But unfortunately it doesn't work with more than 1 picture- then it opens only one.
Maybe, the "shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App" is different on other computers. One have to find it out as under the link
https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-t ... indows-10/ described.
In your "Caption| icon" try using a "ico" file in lieu of a "png" file.
I tried all your suggestions also with my A:\...Icons\Büro\Software-Foren-Webseiten\One Photo Viewer.ico, but it also haven't been shown under the caption.
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 11 May 2023 01:24
by klownboy
I downloaded OnePhotoViewer. Not bad, certainly much, much better than the in-house Windows Photo Viewers. For strictly viewing though, I'll stick with ImageEye. It's extremely fast, lean and mean and clean and no border and free.
This worked for me - there's a caption and icon, and it opens the image in OnePhotoViewer.
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"OnePhotoViewer|D:\Graphics\Icons\butterfly_blue.ico" png;jpg;jpeg>openwith "shell:appsFolder\48914EllipticPhenomena.OnePhotoViewer_8w313s78tpvfc!App";
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 14 May 2023 22:54
by Surya
Ah yeah, now it works with your suggestion :-)
The only difference I can see is the ; at the end- it seems, that makes the caption possible in this case.
Fantastic, thankyou!!
But: It is not shown the picture of my picture path, but the .ico-symbol.
I have this problem on some .icos in Xyplorer, that only the .ico-symbol is shown, not the picture itself. In Windows Explorer they are all shown.
In this case ("open with" + caption), with OnePhotoViewer, but also 3 PDF-programs, in Xyplorers file management the pictures of the .icos are shown, but not in the "open with".
A bit strange...
Would like to show the .ico-picture in the "open with" too ;-) But the most important- the title of the program is shown now readable :-))
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 15 May 2023 00:08
by klownboy
Surya wrote: ↑14 May 2023 22:54
I have this problem on some .icos in Xyplorer, that only the .ico-symbol is shown, not the picture itself. In Windows Explorer they are all shown.
Well, what view in Explorer are you talking about? Certainly not small icons in Explorer - it only shows the associated image viewer icon. Your "view" in Explorer has to be set to medium or large or extra large icons to see the actual mini picture of the image itself as opposed to the viewing program's icon. In XYplorer, the equivalent of medium, large icons, extra large icons is the "thumbnail" views - small, medium, large.
You are not going to see the mini picture (e.g., 16x16) of the image itself from the Customized File Association "Open with..." menu. The "caption|icon" establishes the title and icon beforehand.
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 15 May 2023 22:19
by Surya
Hi klownboy,
my view in XYplorer for these .ico-files is Miniatur #2 (64x64), don't know the english word for it at the moment.
I made a screenshot. In the background you see the content of the folder with the ico-files (& png-files) in view format Miniatur #2 (64x64). There you can see Musicbee.ico >the picture itself is not shown. But other .ico-files are shown as pictures.
On the top left you see the "open with"-Dialog. There are all associated .ico-pictures not shown, instead the ico-program-symbol. For the OnePhotoViewer and also for all 3 pdf-programs. But as you can see in the folder view, the OnePhotoViewer and all 3 pdf-Program-icos are shown as pictures.
I do not understand why they are sometimes shown as pictures and sometimes not. And in the "open with"-dialog never...
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Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 15 May 2023 22:48
by jupe
Reset your ico association in Windows to default.
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 15 May 2023 23:36
by klownboy
I don't know what the story is with MusicBee.ico. You could zip it and attach to a post and I'll see if I get an image.
I can't tell what the issue is with the CFAs or the associated icons since the whole definition line is not visible. Are you sure those icons are available? I see your icon definition is A: drive. To test, try placing the same icon(s) on your C: drive and change the full path and to that.
I just noticed jupe's recommendation to reset your ico association to default. Try that first.
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 15 May 2023 23:47
by Surya
The Musicbee.ico is not the only one, which is shown like empty. There are other .icos too. But Musicbee was a good example, because of sitting just next to the other pdf-icos I was talking about. So I could show the whole problem in one screenshot.
I read now about resetting ico.-association in windows. They are talking about a .reg-file, downloading that and merging and and and... well, that sounds complicated and I don't know then "what I am doing there"... So, I associated ico now to "Photos"- as I remember, that was the association at the beginning. Somewhere else somebody said "set to Paint3D", so I did that some days before... I will see tomorrow after again starting the computer, if the now setted association to "Photos" helped. Thanks jupe!
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 16 May 2023 02:34
by Surya
I restarted Xyplorer and saw already the result. It is now like some days before- now I remember, why I edited the association to Paint3D: Because with the association with "Photos"- like it was before I edited anything, there was also no picture shown for the icos in the. Like it is now again:
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And the image of Musicbee.ico is still not shown...
Re: How to find Universal Apps for "open with"?
Posted: 16 May 2023 02:42
by jupe
Try set it to Paint not Paint3D or Photos, otherwise I'd recommend to fix it via modifying the registry. Alternatively if you preferred, you could reset all Windows file associations to Microsoft recommended defaults which is a option in the Windows Settings dialog, Apps\Default apps.