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Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 12:34
by admin
Well, this does not take anything away. No sane person would type * anyway when TAF-fing.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 13:51
by TheQwerty
I don't have much of an opinion on this needing a tweak - I just find it funny how so many are grabbing their pitchforks now when this behavior has existed for so long...
However I disagree with this:
avsfan wrote:Adding a tweak won't make it more complex from a user's perspective -- it only adds power to those who want it.
Tweaks are very set it and forget it - and given enough time users likely forget the tweak even exists. Plus, by their nature they do not contain much documentation, sometimes are not marked, and as Don continues to improve XY they occasionally go through odd changes (being promoted, demoted, extended, modified) which may not be tracked.
Why is this a problem for the user?
Attempting to re-configure XY from scratch becomes frustrating.
It complicates creating step by step instructions for another user to accomplish a task.
It can make it challenging to determine the cause of a bug and how it can be reproduced.
Anything that negatively impacts Don also negatively impacts all of XY's users.*
Are they powerful and appreciated? Yes.
Do they create code cruft and become a hassle for Don? I'd bet many do.
Do they have any negative impact on the user? Unfortunately they have a few.
Are they worth it? Maybe?
* Off-topic: Every minute Don spends adding, maintaining, or working around tweaks or wastes trying to understand a "bug" caused by a tweak is one that delays Live Filters, Breadcrumbs, and the revolutionary Pony-Mode. It would be interesting to see where XY would be if Don refused to implement tweaks - not just in regards to software features but also size and happiness of user base.
That said, I am glad that Don gives us all of this rope that we can hang ourselves with.
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:12
by armsys
Hi TheQwerty,
I agree with every single word you so elegantly and philosophically expressed.
It hurts Don's revenue.
It hurts Don's rent.
It hurts Don's coffee.
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:21
by TheQwerty
armsys wrote:Hi TheQwerty,
I agree with every single word you so elegantly and philosophically expressed.
It hurts Don's revenue.
It hurts Don's rent.
It hurt Don's coffee.
You are quite the curious individual, armsys and I think you may be finding more between the lines than I ever intended.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:22
by admin
I'd like to hear more about the Pony-Mode!
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:28
by TheQwerty
admin wrote:I'd like to hear more about the Pony-Mode!
As would I, but it's
your revolutionary idea.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:31
by admin
Marco wrote:Challenge accepted

So? Do you admit defeat now?

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:58
by Marco

Hm.

You know, I will give you the tweak just to show you that the current behavior does make sense. You will thank me for not adding that tweak as a feature.

admin wrote:Marco wrote:Challenge accepted

So? Do you admit defeat now?

The behaviour after setting the tweak to 1 is exactly what would make sense in my mind... and apparently in other's too. I'm still trying to figure out what use case can prove that I'm nuts lol
Nobody's defeated yet...
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 15:03
by admin
That proves it sufficiently: You are nuts.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 16:24
by armsys
Sorry for a nutty question:
Which section of XYplorer.ini should include the tweak: TAFNoRepeatCharCycle=1?
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 16:29
by admin
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 16:46
by armsys
Of course, I'm aware of XYplorer.ini.
My questions:
[1] Which section in the XYplorer.in?
[2] Can I insert TAFNoRepeatCharCycle=1 under [General]?
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 16:50
by TheQwerty
If you follow those instructions and save your settings then all you have to do is search XYplorer.ini for the tweak.
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 25 Jul 2013 17:00
by j_c_hallgren
armsys wrote:
Of course, I'm aware of XYplorer.ini.
My questions:
[1] Which section in the XYplorer.in?
[2] Can I insert TAFNoRepeatCharCycle=1 under [General]?
You NEVER add the base tweak line - it gets generated when you update to the vers that it was added in and then save your settings as it says in that post, ok?
Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?
Posted: 26 Jul 2013 00:56
by armsys
j_c_hallgren wrote:You NEVER add the base tweak line - it gets generated when you update to the vers that it was added in and then save your settings as it says in that post, ok?
Thanks for your guidance. Sorry, I'm a rookie in tweaking XY.