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Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:08
by Jerry
admin wrote:1) Since standard TAF only matches with beginning of string (pattern*), I could change the code so that with "match anywhere" you could get the desired non-standard behavior. However, I dislike the fact that it complicates things just to allow searching for "11" :)
I think this approach is preferred to using a wildcard, which other requires different user behavior for only certain cases. That's ugly too.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:14
by Marco
I don't want to give up anything - in fact I posted this here, and not in wishes nor bugs.
I simply find baffling and nonsensical this behaviour of TAF for single letter/digit queries, but since you say that this is the way Windows works, I blame the MS guys and not you :P
I'd say leave it as it is.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:27
by TheQwerty
Perhaps there's a third option?
Treat the Next/Previous commands as an end of pattern.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:32
by admin
TheQwerty wrote:Perhaps there's a third option?
Treat the Next/Previous commands as an end of pattern.
No everybody has assigned the KS.

I opted for *. :)

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:44
by Jerry
I must be missing something here. When exactly does this repeated character-move through list of matches behavior occur? Whether I have Match Anywhere on or off, it only works for me when repeating the first character. What's the point of that? If I repeat the char anywhere else in the string, (as in 200), there is no moving through the list, the char just gets added to the match pattern.

We are bending over backwards to try to save this one specialized behavior when you repeat only the first character of the pattern?

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:56
by admin
No, this behavior is totally non-special. Every list in Windows since Windows exists has this feature.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 19:58
by TheQwerty
admin wrote:
TheQwerty wrote:Perhaps there's a third option?
Treat the Next/Previous commands as an end of pattern.
No everybody has assigned the KS.

I opted for *. :)
Not afraid * will give users the impression it's a wildcard?


/me Prepares bug report: Type ahead '11*1' not working. :twisted:

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 20:01
by admin
Wait till you see it. Actually you will not see it (the *). :)

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 20:03
by Jerry
admin wrote:No, this behavior is totally non-special. Every list in Windows since Windows exists has this feature.
Ok, but Windows lists do not have the match anywhere capability, right? So why not say that with the new match anywhere option in XYplorer, you no longer have that first character repeat behavior -- in order to keep the match anywhere capability consistent.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 20:04
by admin
Jerry wrote:
admin wrote:No, this behavior is totally non-special. Every list in Windows since Windows exists has this feature.
Ok, but Windows lists do not have the match anywhere capability, right? So why not say that with the new match anywhere option in XYplorer, you no longer have that first character repeat behavior -- in order to keep the match anywhere capability consistent.
That was my option a) above. But I don't like it anymore.

I think it's time to close this now. Alea iacta est.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 20:12
by Jerry
Ok, my last input on this: What about a standalone option that just turns off that first character move through match list behavior, period?

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 22:42
by avsfan
Jerry wrote:Ok, my last input on this: What about a standalone option that just turns off that first character move through match list behavior, period?
I would love to have a tweak that supports this behavior. Now we've got two fools for the "two fools rule." :)

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013 23:58
by armsys
I'm satisified with the current design. Simple and fast.
Don has done his utmost to implemenet the most innovative time-saving feature, namely, TAF.
Is "11*" too unnatural and unintituitive and unartistic for human?
For others , why don't:
1. Press CTRL+F;
2. Type "11";
3. Press F3.
Simple and fast.
Stop wasting your time in a matter de minimis.
Life is short.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 25 Jul 2013 00:22
by Jerry
armsys wrote:I'm satisified with the current design. Simple and fast.
Don has done his utmost to implemenet the most innovative time-saving feature, namely, TAF.
Is "11*" too unnatural and unintituitive and unartistic for human?
For others , why don't:
1. Press CTRL+F;
2. Type "11";
3. Press F3.
Simple and fast.
Stop wasting your time in a matter de minimis.
Life is short.
Easier to just do Ctrl-J (set visual filter) and enter 11*.

Re: Type Ahead Find - How to find "11"?

Posted: 25 Jul 2013 00:28
by armsys
Jerry wrote:Easier to just do Ctrl-J (set visual filter) and enter 11*.
Absolutely agree. Thanks, Jerry.