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Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 11:02
by 12thXy
I'm using XYplorer-style (Rounded). Note: When switched to Archaic or Windows style, the tab text color becomes the Selected Tab text colour!

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 11:12
by admin
Yes, got it. All will be good in the next beta.

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 13:53
by 12thXy
I tested beta 28.00.1201 and the colours look fantastic. I'll include a screenshot of two oddities that I don't believe were present before 1200. Tab corners have an aliasing artifact and sometimes mouseover/mouseout results in a leftover vertical grey line between tabs.
1201tab2.png

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 14:35
by admin
Ah yes. Normally (i.e., with Apply Colors OFF) with "XYplorer Style" and "XYplorer Style (Rounded)" the non-selected tabs backgrounds are not drawn at all, but only the separators. I could (or should?) make it like that even with Apply Colors ON. Would that work with your color scheme?

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 15:17
by 12thXy
Oh, so that's a separator? I see, now. When Apply Colors is off, the separator always exists between background tabs. However when Apply Colors is on, the separator becomes unpredictable. Sometimes it appears on mouseover, sometimes not. Sometimes it's left behind, sometimes it's gone.

Onto your question. Now that I see it, the background tabs in Explorer seem to be unpainted, too, except on mouseover, and I see the same style of vertical separator there. I don't know how I missed that. So the XY separator should exist. The separator seems semi-transparent in Explorer. For example, if the Explorer titlebar is full black, the separator between background tabs samples to #151515 (RGB 21,21,21, or 8% lum). If the Explorer titlebar background is a dark grey #0a0a0a, its separator lightens in relation to it to #1e1e1e (RGB 30,30,30, or 12% lum).

TLDR; Background tabs in rounded mode look better when they aren't shown, much more Explorer-like, but the separator is too light.

So.... a custom separator colour tweak? :)

With build 1200 onward, I have some confusion on the role and difference between "Apply Colors" checkbox versus "Preserve Custom Colors".
Alone, Preserve Custom Colors will make foreground tabs keep any specialized per-tab custom *background* colour, but then the Breadcrumb text colour overrides. Meanwhile, Apply Colours on its own will prevent Breadcrumb text from overriding Active Tab/Other Tab text colour (great!), but it simultaneously does something unexpected (unwanted?) -- it forces per-tab custom colours which I thought was the role of "Preserve Custom Colors" only. If I check both boxes, there is no visible difference than just "Apply Colours". I could just remove all custom per-tab colour definitions if I want to make them uniform. But the checkboxes exist!

So Apply Colors and Preserve Custom Colors appear to be swapped? Or Apply Colours *shouldn't* be also applying Custom Colors unless both are checked?

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 17:07
by admin
1) With the current options there is a conflict between the nature of the "XYplorer Style" styles ("don't paint the non-selected tab backgrounds"), and the Configuration | Colors and Styles | Colors | Apply colors setting ("paint the non-selected tab backgrounds using these colors"). I now decided that it is less surprising for the user to let the "Apply colors" setting win. And of course I will remove those separators in that situation.

2) Concerning the separator color there is currently another thread: viewtopic.php?t=29235 As you will see, it's not easy.

3) The "Preserve Custom Colors" option is only offering an exception to "Match selected tab with breadcrumb bar", so it ONLY applies to the selected tab.

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 17:40
by 12thXy
I checked that thread. I understand.

Re: Tab Text colors, Tree Text colors display incorrectly?

Posted: 03 Dec 2025 19:04
by admin
12thXy wrote: 03 Dec 2025 13:53 I tested beta 28.00.1201 and the colours look fantastic. I'll include a screenshot of two oddities that I don't believe were present before 1200. Tab corners have an aliasing artifact and sometimes mouseover/mouseout results in a leftover vertical grey line between tabs.
Should both be fixed in 28.00.1202. :tup: