Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

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Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

Post by spacename »

Hi,
So I have been working on learning the features of XYplorer.
I have been doing this for a few weeks now.

For the most part; it's been close to what I expected regarding the amount of effort required. However, there are several areas/points that have been troubling to find information.
This is not because the features are difficult once learned, it's because some settings are not in preferences, Example: CTRL+RC on a circle to change the colors.. ***BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW TO DO THAT? ***

So now I find myself trying LC, MMB, RC, with each modifier key and combo on every UI component to see if there's options available. YEAH, IT'S SILLY! 100%! :D
Reading a hotkey chart won't do much for the learning process but it helps in a 10% kind of way I guess, this is because terms used vary and features are custom. AKA: there's deciphering to be done.

In an attempt to try to clarify this rambling of mine
Question;
Is there a set of videos that shows news users how to manage features that are not hyper obvious ?
Like 30second to 1 minute videos for overviews of feature sections ?

Example: In the 3dTech space we make Usability Image maps or 30 second videos specific to terms and uses ; AKA: Image maps:We highlight a region of the ui, show shortcuts, mention specific menu names and term specifics.
This way new users know the core info as to be productive rather than spending hours sorting usermanual info and term use specific to the program.

What does the above mean ? What am I trying to ask ?
Is there a way to learn the features of XYPlorer without fumbling through the process, googling for hours, and RTFM the manual for more hours ?
EXAMPLE:
I spent an hour digging through the settings, manual, googling... **just to find this** -> CTRL+RightClick to change the color of the circles regarding age.
There's a Colors option in the Settings panel ..but not for this feature. There's Jump-search info in Settings panel but not for this, ..
The manual is elaborate and appears to be a well done expounding of the program.. but I just wanted to change the colors of these UI components that seem to be tucked away in you'll-never-guess-how land. :P


What do I think would be a good idea ?
If there was a video set, 20 minutes of videos 30 seconds long, to the point.. showing sections, infos, etc..
I have a feeling alot more people would buy XYplorer if there was a super easy onboarding to a this wonderfully complicated tool.
How can I assume such a thing ? -> because I held off buying for more than 6 years because of that reason. I only decided to buy for the custom copy feature (plus I knew I would enjoy the entire program once I learned it). It's not been so fun to learn. Sorry... just being honest. It's fun to use, but not learn.


OK, so now that I have rambled about various points..
... let me say that there's no need to respond.
If there is an easy and somewhat swift onboarding for me to enjoy I would love to know of it. ....Maybe this exists and I am missing it ?

This could easily be a $50/60usd purchase if the onboarding was adjusted and people would be surprised by the featureset in action.


Enjoy your week. Thx for reading this.
Feel free to ignore me.. but I don't think you should! ;)

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Re: Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

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Re: Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

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***BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW TO DO THAT? ***
By reading the help file :tup:

Index -> age -> Age Circles
5 seconds later:
You can customize the age classes by right-clicking any age circle in the list while holding CTRL.

It took me less then 10 seconds to find that information...

Sorry, I find those 3ds max image maps a bit dumb. Listing the shortcuts of functions? Ok. Letting the tooltips show the name of the function (that's already in the ribbon^^)... Em. No comment. I'm not 3 years old, I can read^^

Conclusion: If you want all those videos (perfectly made ofc): Make them, share them^^

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Re: Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

Post by admin »

There are thousands of features in XY that are not "hyper-obvious". Videos are not the answer.

1) You want to know about all non-obvious features?
a) Read the help.
b) Read the website (https://www.xyplorer.com/features.php, https://www.xyplorer.com/whatsnew.php)

2) You want to know how to do something, or if it is possible?
a) Search the help.
b) Ask here in the forum. Natural intelligence.

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Re: Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

Post by spacename »

good! we're getting somewhere!
Now add this info somewhere as "New Users Start Here" !

Or do you prefer all new users fumble around and read every website page rather than having concise direct info ?

You get it now I am sure.

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Re: Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

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highend wrote: 23 Oct 2023 01:27 It took me less then 10 seconds to find that information...
Because you are familiar with it.
highend wrote: 23 Oct 2023 01:27 Sorry, I find those 3ds max image maps a bit dumb. Listing the shortcuts of functions? Ok. Letting the tooltips show the name of the function (that's already in the ribbon^^)... Em. No comment. I'm not 3 years old, I can read^^
You're also arrogant and ego based. You must not be a developer type.

Those example images are for NEW USER ONBOARDING..Obviously not for you.
Honestly, let the big boys talk. Shhh.

highend wrote: 23 Oct 2023 01:27 Conclusion: If you want all those videos (perfectly made ofc): Make them, share them^^
I don't think I have ever encountered someone as clueless and willing to expose themselves as clueless, as this person.


Get mad at me if you want.. you're intentionally letting you ego get in the way of actual communication.
I haven't seen this type of behavior since forums in 2003, which were related to how to use game development tools.
How are you a moderator here ? srsly..

In one post.. you shame me, berate me, insult examples... FFS bud, if you were my mod... I'd remove you instantly for acting like this.

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Re: Onboarding concise, short videos that help new users get onboard ? I'll explain..

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Those example images are for NEW USER ONBOARDING..Obviously not for you.
Honestly, let the big boys talk. Shhh.
And your new users are too dumb to identify a tooltip that belongs to an item in the ribbon so the name of the item needs to be doubled. Ok, I'm really glad that I don't need to be treated like a 3 year old. Big boys? How old are you, 4? Btw, that's an insult. Or maybe just the truth...
I don't think I have ever encountered someone as clueless and willing to expose themselves as clueless, as this person.
You're right, I'm the most clueless here. Btw, great attitude! You want something, let others do the work. That's the way the world works nowadays...
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