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How do I change the default Copy/Move program while using XYplorer? I want to use TeraCopy, as it has many more features than XYplorer.exe. If I can't use TeraCopy, I'll have to quit using XYplorer.

dadwhiskers wrote:How do I change the default Copy/Move program while using XYplorer? I want to use TeraCopy, as it has many more features than XYplorer.exe. If I can't use TeraCopy, I'll have to quit using XYplorer.

Welcome!
See this post:
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 334#p73334

Indeed, welcome to the club! Enjoy your stay here however long or brief it may be!


I just wanted to add that if you don't find serendipity's suggestion a good solution then before you leave please come back and leave a message explaining what features you love so much in TeraCopy that prevent you from living in harmony with XYplorer.

If you do that then there is a chance at them being incorporated into XY for the betterment of all.

serendipity wrote:

dadwhiskers wrote:How do I change the default Copy/Move program while using XYplorer? I want to use TeraCopy, as it has many more features than XYplorer.exe. If I can't use TeraCopy, I'll have to quit using XYplorer.

Welcome!
See this post:
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 334#p73334

serendipity wrote:

dadwhiskers wrote:How do I change the default Copy/Move program while using XYplorer? I want to use TeraCopy, as it has many more features than XYplorer.exe. If I can't use TeraCopy, I'll have to quit using XYplorer.

Welcome!
See this post:
http://www.xyplorer.com/xyfc/viewtopic. ... 334#p73334

Apparently the TeraCopy integration script no longer works, if one goes by the last post on that page.

dadwhiskers wrote:Apparently the TeraCopy integration script no longer works, if one goes by the last post on that page.

sorry, I used it long ago and it definitely worked. Did you already try it and it did not work?
If yes, please post your error there. I or someone else will help you figure out.

Also, just to be clear about what you said earlier: you mentioned you tried XY copy method. Did you go to Tools>Configuration>File Operations>Background Processing and Enable Background Processing?

serendipity wrote:

dadwhiskers wrote:Apparently the TeraCopy integration script no longer works, if one goes by the last post on that page.

sorry, I used it long ago and it definitely worked. Did you already try it and it did not work?
If yes, please post your error there. I or someone else will help you figure out.

Also, just to be clear about what you said earlier: you mentioned you tried XY copy method. Did you go to Tools>Configuration>File Operations>Background Processing and Enable Background Processing?

When I tracked down the step by step instructions, I found that it says:

"As far as I know, you cannot make TeraCopy the default-copy-handler for XY.

But you can assign the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V / Ctrl+X Hotkeys to the Script, so every copying through these hotkeys run with teracopy.
Personally, I use Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V all the time because it is simply faster than clicking through menus."

I'm just going to forget about it and go back to Windows Explorer replacement I was using. You really need to make the copy/move so the default can be chosen in a very simple way. Don't figure you can just integrate the functions of TeraCopy into XYplorer - they've worked on it for years.

There's really no reason for you to respond further. I'm outa here.

serendipity wrote:

dadwhiskers wrote:Apparently the TeraCopy integration script no longer works, if one goes by the last post on that page.

sorry, I used it long ago and it definitely worked. Did you already try it and it did not work?
If yes, please post your error there. I or someone else will help you figure out.

Also, just to be clear about what you said earlier: you mentioned you tried XY copy method. Did you go to Tools>Configuration>File Operations>Background Processing and Enable Background Processing?

Yes, and it still bogs the system down.

A quick web search brought up the following command line spec for TeraCopy: So it would be quite easy to let you define TeraCopy as default copy handler somewhere like this:
General: <[copyhandler path]> <[Operation]> *<itemlist|[item separator]> <target>
Specific: "C:\Program Files\TeraCopy\TeraCopy.exe" Copy *<itemlist| > <target>
<itemlist| > and <target> would be resolved by XY on the fly

Not sure ATM what kind of quoting is expected but this is a solvable question.

(something comparable is already provided here: Configuration | Templates | Use custom command line interpreter (else default to cmd.exe):)

That would be pretty excellent, yes. I miss TeraCopy... (Probably would make sense to even just default the values to exactly that set of parameters that would make TeraCopy work, just with the "use a replacement file copy program" checkbox unchecked - cause let's face it, almost everyone who would toggle it on, is probably going to use TeraCopy with it. )

neminem wrote:That would be pretty excellent, yes. I miss TeraCopy... (Probably would make sense to even just default the values to exactly that set of parameters that would make TeraCopy work, just with the "use a replacement file copy program" checkbox unchecked - cause let's face it, almost everyone who would toggle it on, is probably going to use TeraCopy with it. )

I almost understand. Did you want to write "checkbox checked" instead of "checkbox unchecked"?

admin wrote:

neminem wrote:That would be pretty excellent, yes. I miss TeraCopy... (Probably would make sense to even just default the values to exactly that set of parameters that would make TeraCopy work, just with the "use a replacement file copy program" checkbox unchecked - cause let's face it, almost everyone who would toggle it on, is probably going to use TeraCopy with it. )

I almost understand. Did you want to write "checkbox checked" instead of "checkbox unchecked"?

No? I figure the default behavior should probably not be to use an external copy/move program, being that, while there are probably way more people using TeraCopy than any other external copy/move program... there are probably still way more people who don't use TeraCopy (or any other external copy/move program) than those who do. Would be weird by default trying to use an external program that isn't installed. :p

What I meant was, you could set it so the default in the options page was, all you need to do to get TeraCopy working was check one checkbox (and install TeraCopy :p)

neminem wrote:

admin wrote:

neminem wrote:That would be pretty excellent, yes. I miss TeraCopy... (Probably would make sense to even just default the values to exactly that set of parameters that would make TeraCopy work, just with the "use a replacement file copy program" checkbox unchecked - cause let's face it, almost everyone who would toggle it on, is probably going to use TeraCopy with it. )

I almost understand. Did you want to write "checkbox checked" instead of "checkbox unchecked"?

No? I figure the default behavior should probably not be to use an external copy/move program, being that, while there are probably way more people using TeraCopy than any other external copy/move program... there are probably still way more people who don't use TeraCopy (or any other external copy/move program) than those who do. Would be weird by default trying to use an external program that isn't installed. :p

What I meant was, you could set it so the default in the options page was, all you need to do to get TeraCopy working was check one checkbox (and install TeraCopy :p)

Yes, ok. But I don't think I will do that. I asked TeraCopy for support (in this very matter!) already two times years ago and never got a reply. I don't think I'm going to give them free promotion by compiling their brand name into my app.

admin wrote:Yes, ok. But I don't think I will do that. I asked TeraCopy for support (in this very matter!) already two times years ago and never got a reply. I don't think I'm going to give them free promotion by compiling their brand name into my app.

I don't think you need to specifically mention their product name...just use the product category name and anyone who uses TeraCopy should know what's being referred to and if they don't, a quick forum search will find it.

j_c_hallgren wrote:

admin wrote:Yes, ok. But I don't think I will do that. I asked TeraCopy for support (in this very matter!) already two times years ago and never got a reply. I don't think I'm going to give them free promotion by compiling their brand name into my app.

I don't think you need to specifically mention their product name...just use the product category name and anyone who uses TeraCopy should know what's being referred to and if they don't, a quick forum search will find it.

Doing the command line thing would be too restrictive and actually a nonsense way to have to do copies and moves. I just want to use the computer - not futz with it all the time. If it can't be set up to be automatic, for me, whatever prevents that must go. Just put a damned checkbox to turn OFF the XYplorer copy/move function, which from what I can tell is the Windows Explorer copy/move function, and nothing more, and which is all but completely useless compared to TeraCopy. Then, in TeraCopy, one could probably just set it to be the default copy/move function. As it is, anyone who does a lot of copies and moves and has ever used TeraCopy, will find XYplorer an insurmountable impediment. There are a number of free Windows Explorer replacements that do not block the normal use of TeraCopy.

The reason for the existence of both XYplorer and TeraCopy is Microsoft's incompetence, but without a simple way to use an alternate to the Windows Explorer copy/move function, for those of us who "need" a both a program like TeraCopy and also one like XYplorer, you make one of the free alternatives, though lacking in some of XYplorer's extensive features, very attractive by XYplorer automatically usurping the copy/move function, and not letting go. Maybe you could just leave the Windows Explorer copy/move function alone all together, instead of running it through XYplorer, then TeraCopy could take its place normally. I don't know, but what I do know, is that if I'm to ever use XYplorer again, this HAS to be fixed in an elegant, futz-free manner. Which brings up another problem . . .

I just attempted to remove XYplorer until you figure this very simple thing out, and it does not uninstall. In Programs and Features I clicked on it and got a message window saying, "Please wait until the current program is uninstalled or finished being changed." Then NOTHING happened. Actually, I've done it several times, and it's been well over an hour now. XYplorer is no longer listed in Task Manager as a process, but it is still in control of all the directory windows. Why is that? I couldn't find an XYplorer Service to disable.

Well, actually, never mind, I'll figure out how to get rid of it, and won't be back to this forum - or XYplorer.

A question to teracopy users, does it have undo feature?
I stopped using it long back after a bad experience and shocked to find there was no way back.
I am spoilt by XY's awesome undo feature, especially the cumulative and non-sequential undo/redo.
http://www.xyplorer.com/tour/index.php?page=undo