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Option to hide/toggle File Info preview in Preview tab
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 10:37
by zridling
Picky request, but it would be great when viewing photos if there was an option to hide the File Info preview in the Preview window? The reason I ask is because it unnecessarily reduces the size of photos in landscape orientation. The other reason is that XYplorer's Preview window has high quality resampling that really stands out to others.
Perhaps all this file info could be: (1) moved to a tab, (2) or to an on/off checkbox in Options, or (3) allow it to be toggled on/off from the red dropdown arrow context box on the same screen. Anything to allow landscape oriented photos a better, bigger view. The difference is easily noticed in the screenshots below, where the portrait oriented photo in the first is fine, but second and third show the difference with and without this info box being there.
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PS. Love the new beta, btw — Wow!
Re: Option to hide/toggle File Info preview in Preview tab
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 10:41
by admin
Good idea!
And nice photos!

Posted: 16 Aug 2006 16:24
by j_c_hallgren
The way I'd prefer this to be handled is via a toggle within the arrow dropdown...which, BTW, is not shown in the 3rd screen example given..it would reduce the vertical height of pix slightly (at top) but still would allow it to be much larger than it currently is...
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 21:19
by zridling
Makes sense, JC, since the red arrow context dropdown button is already there. (I had to do the screenshots because I could not describe it clearly!)
Posted: 16 Aug 2006 21:43
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:The way I'd prefer this to be handled is via a toggle within the arrow dropdown...which, BTW, is not shown in the 3rd screen example given..it would reduce the vertical height of pix slightly (at top) but still would allow it to be much larger than it currently is...
The arrow drop-down opens the same menu as right-clicking the previewed pic. So I don't think it's necessary to keep it visible. Why not go all the way?
Posted: 17 Aug 2006 01:20
by j_c_hallgren
Because leaving the arrow/drop-down makes it
very obvious there is some control available!

Think new user mentality....
Also, as you may recall, some of us touch-pad folks avoid right-clicks as much as possible as it's not as easy to do...drop-down works with left-click.
Posted: 18 Aug 2006 11:37
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Because leaving the arrow/drop-down makes it
very obvious there is some control available!

Think new user mentality....
Also, as you may recall, some of us touch-pad folks avoid right-clicks as much as possible as it's not as easy to do...drop-down works with left-click.
Done

Posted: 18 Aug 2006 13:28
by zridling
Thanks Don, this makes a world of difference when previewing photos now!
Posted: 18 Aug 2006 15:05
by admin
zridling wrote:Thanks Don, this makes a world of difference when previewing photos now!
Oh yes, I like it myself so much that the next BETA will have hideable Raw View Infos as well.
Posted: 18 Aug 2006 16:13
by j_c_hallgren
Haven't installed latest yet, but reading release notes, I see you defaulted it to false...and that to keep as before, one must change it...I would have done it the reverse so any who wanted new feature would have to set it on...some beta users may be unaware of this thread and wonder what happened...no big deal but just a suggestion for future...
Posted: 18 Aug 2006 16:42
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:Haven't installed latest yet, but reading release notes, I see you defaulted it to false...and that to keep as before, one must change it...I would have done it the reverse so any who wanted new feature would have to set it on...some beta users may be unaware of this thread and wonder what happened...no big deal but just a suggestion for future...
It defaults to true on a fresh installation. I just did not bother to write extra migration code for this one. Strictly thinking you're right, of course.
Posted: 18 Aug 2006 18:10
by j_c_hallgren

I like it! But title "Show Image Infos" seems a bit weird English...I'd suggest maybe "Attributes" instead of "Infos"? Or at least make it "Info"...
Also, I see a "Made: 2006.08.11 10:33:11" style entry...Title, IMHO, should be "Created"...and seeing date/time in that format? Could you use the Date Format defined for List view? As us USA folks tend to prefer MM/DD/YYYY style...
Posted: 19 Aug 2006 07:29
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:
I like it! But title "Show Image Infos" seems a bit weird English...I'd suggest maybe "Attributes" instead of "Infos"? Or at least make it "Info"...
Oh, thank you. I guess "Properties" will do too, ok?
j_c_hallgren wrote:Also, I see a "Made: 2006.08.11 10:33:11" style entry...Title, IMHO, should be "Created"...and seeing date/time in that format? Could you use the Date Format defined for List view? As us USA folks tend to prefer MM/DD/YYYY style...
Oh, this should have happened and does happen over here. That's a bug...
PS:
EXIF data can contain various date fields:
(1) 0x9003 DateTimeOriginal: Date/Time of original image taken.
(2) 0x0132 DateTime: Date/Time of image was last modified.
Usually both are present and have the same value. But there are exceptions to this of all kind.
I'd like to use words that are different from the file times (Created, Modified). Any suggestions? For example "Image taken:" and "Image modified:"?
Posted: 19 Aug 2006 08:50
by j_c_hallgren
1) The reason I suggested "Attributes" was that you show some fields that are not shown when one does "Properties" via Win Explorer...and maybe Attributes is misleading also (

), as that might be interpreted as Hidden/System/Read-only/etc values...so...let's go with "Information" as that is menu entry used by IrFanView and a couple of other similar products, ok?
2) OH!

So you're showing the EXIF data! That wasn't obvious!

And then NOT a bug fully!
Thus, I
retract my comment about date being improperly formatted in reverse! As three other pgrms show it as "YYYY:MM:DD HH:MM:SS" with ":" as separators, and one uses "-" so maybe at least do it that way, instead of ".", ok?
As far as how to label it? Maybe "EXIF Date/Time"? But if it's the "original" field, then "EXIF Date/Time Original" would be most consistent...
Posted: 19 Aug 2006 09:27
by admin
j_c_hallgren wrote:1) The reason I suggested "Attributes" was that you show some fields that are not shown when one does "Properties" via Win Explorer...and maybe Attributes is misleading also (

), as that might be interpreted as Hidden/System/Read-only/etc values...so...let's go with "Information" as that is menu entry used by IrFanView and a couple of other similar products, ok?
Ok for the Image Preview. I'm just not sure about the Raw View: in the next version it will be hideable, too, and this panel has not just information but also some checkboxes... "Properties" would work here, I guess, but "Information"??
j_c_hallgren wrote:... As three other pgrms show it as "YYYY:MM:DD HH:MM:SS" with ":" as separators, and one uses "-" so maybe at least do it that way, instead of ".", ok?

I can convert it now to your local format, so I do it.
