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i'm sorry making a topic to ask such simple question, but since i use this often it's rather uncomfortable as it is.
currently, Tab key switches between interface elements. first in its list is address bar(which is very useful!). but each time whole address is selected, so i need to push something to undo it =i understand what for it's done(fast input of commands etc), but me, personally, use it mostly for type-ahead access to folder, when there are too much of them to navigate through List View. each time having to undo selection makes me feel irritated from times to times (i already have rename selection undo with only PgDn which i can't get used to ).

eil wrote:i'm sorry making a topic to ask such simple question, but since i use this often it's rather uncomfortable as it is.
currently, Tab key switches between interface elements. first in its list is address bar(which is very useful!). but each time whole address is selected, so i need to push something to undo it =i understand what for it's done(fast input of commands etc), but me, personally, use it mostly for type-ahead access to folder, when there are too much of them to navigate through List View. each time having to undo selection makes me feel irritated from times to times (i already have rename selection undo with only PgDn which i can't get used to ).

Just to be clear: You say this is a problem when you tab into the address bar and use it for type-ahead access to a folder -- you mean for entering a jump to expression like ">foo*, right? But if that's the case, having the current contents of the address field auto-selected facilitates this because once you begin typing the expression, the current contents will be entirely replaced with what you type. Or, am I missing something?

no, that's not it. example: with List View i go to C: then \Program Files, and to quickly go to needed folder i'm pressing Tab =which takes focus to address bar. but it selects path(in this situation C:\Program Files\), so each time i need to undo it to further type name of folder i wish to go. by saying "type ahead" i meant variant in drop-down, while i type name of folder.

eil wrote:no, that's not it. example: with List View i go to C: then \Program Files, and to quickly go to needed folder i'm pressing Tab =which takes focus to address bar. but it selects path(in this situation C:\Program Files\), so each time i need to undo it to further type name of folder i wish to go. by saying "type ahead" i meant variant in drop-down, while i type name of folder.

Ok, I think I get it now. But in that case, I just type the End key and then start typing the folder name, which puts it at the end of the current address. I don't find that too tedious, especially when it's something I typically do in other applications as well, so it's second nature.

By default when you enter a relative path into the address bar XY resolves it in from the current path.
So if you browse to "C:\" entering just "Windows" in the address bar will take you to "C:\Windows".

The only downside to entering "Windows" instead of "C:\Windows" here is that it doesn't offer auto-completion.

TheQwerty wrote: The only downside to entering "Windows" instead of "C:\Windows" here is that it doesn't offer auto-completion.

I think that's what eil wants - to get the auto-completion from the drop down list. So pressing the End key before typing will do that.

Jerry wrote:I just type the End key and then start typing the folder name, which puts it at the end of the current address. I don't find that too tedious, especially when it's something I typically do in other applications as well, so it's second nature.

currently i do the same, pushing End. it may be not tedious from the first glance, but when every day, about 30-60 times you do it(at the same time understanding how seldom you really need that selection at all), it makes kinda uncomfortable same thing i had before with Rename and PgDn, but thankfully i don't rename so often(or it could be hell too!).
as for other application- the only program i spend as many time as in XYplorer is Opera, where such problem can't happen

TheQwerty wrote:The only downside to entering "Windows" instead of "C:\Windows" here is that it doesn't offer auto-completion.

that is too much of a down-side

Frankly, this feels a bit like option bloat to me.

If anything I'd say change: Config > Advanced > Drop-down lists > "Select all on focus by mouse"
to drop the mouse condition, and just control "Select all on focus"

TheQwerty wrote:Frankly, this feels a bit like option bloat to me.
If anything I'd say change: Config > Advanced > Drop-down lists > "Select all on focus by mouse"
to drop the mouse condition, and just control "Select all on focus"

I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to add but the feature would be more like Auto-select address field on focus so if unchecked, tabbing into the address bar will not auto-select the current contents. But it would also have to put the cursor at the very the end of the current contents as well.

Jerry wrote:I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to add but the feature would be more like Auto-select address field on focus so if unchecked, tabbing into the address bar will not auto-select the current contents. But it would also have to put the cursor at the very the end of the current contents as well.

Sorry, but why must it be a new option instead of a modification to an existing one, as I suggested?

TheQwerty wrote: Sorry, but why must it be a new option instead of a modification to an existing one, as I suggested?

As I understood it, eil's original use case was tabbing into the address field and being able to start typing at the end of the current contents right away, with auto-completion from the dropdown list (which may not happen because what he's typing is not there.) But he should respond to your point.

i understood point with modifying Select all on focus by mouse, but i feel there may be users that will be against of having either both auto-select or both none(that is if really some switch/feature would be implemented). thought it's not a bad idea yet for now, i can't propose any good idea/solution by myself, except these you two mentioned: new switch or modified old(which brings each own obstacles).